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Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone?

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Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Ok, so the package remains in the filesystem, it is not removed. To do 
> so needs being root. It is just marked as uninstalled or disabled for 
> user 0. Fine.
> 
> Then, what is the advantage of this system over the GUI method of 
> disabling an app? The effects are the same, AFAIK.
> 
> Is there a difference with updates? A system update can activate 
> disabled system apps. One has to remember to deactivate them once more. 
> Is this the same with adb?

Hi Carlos,

It's good that you're asking questions, as these questions I would ask too.

You are correct that using adb to (let's use loose terms) "get rid of" the
effects of an app (which, in this case, is com.google.android.apps.bard) is
not different, in effect, from simply doing the same thing in the GUI.... 

                 *if the GUI allows it*

To Carlos' point, adb shell allows bypassing GUI restrictions, where many
system (bloatware) apps have the Disable/Uninstall" buttons grayed out.

Also we have to consider storage and cache reclaiming, which we can't
always control for system apps using just the GUI, as adb allows granular
control that may not be available in the GUI.

An example we ran into long ago is that people "think" they know which apps
are accessing their contacts, but if they use only the GUI, they do not.

Also, adb allows precise targeting of specific users (--user 0, --user 10,
etc.) & multi-profile environments like Island or Shelter (Work Profiles).

However, Carlos is right that OTA and system updates can re-enable system
apps that we thought were "gone" so I won't dismiss the possibility that it
can likely happen, particularly after major OS updates perhaps (or, of
course, after a complete factory reset).

In addition, adb allows if/then/else scripting, which isn't in a GUI.
 a. disable -> changes enabled state
 b. uninstall --user -> removes the package from that user's set
 c. clear -> removes that user's app data
 d. suspend -> prevents normal use while leaving it installed
 e. install-existing -> restores an existing system package for that use	r

In addition, adb is easily reproducible. For example, if I factory reset, I
can re-run my saved adb commands which can re-establish a previous state.

But overall, my answer to Carlos' reasonable question is simply that ADB
exposes operations that the Android GUI may not expose, and lets us perform
them precisely, repeatedly, and on a specified user/profile.
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