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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: Editing PDF files |
| Date | 2026-10-01 14:09 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <119m7l8$1e7ab$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <osftomx8qd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <119i2sr$3tfqd$1@dont-email.me> <ni7d5pFtkbvU1@mid.individual.net> |
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On Thu, 10/1/2026 11:40 AM, s|b wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 00:23:55 -0400, Paul wrote: > >> Apparently Firefox browser can fill a form.pdf . > 8< snip >8 > > I was about to suggest this, but I wasn't sure. > I tested it, on my sample Acroform document and modern Firefox filled the boxes OK. I didn't test the whole cycle though (save and reopen elsewhere). On a vanilla document, your options are a bit more complicated. And our objective here, is to come up with a recipe that is easy to use. A science experiment is not the objective, as much fun as that would be. PDF have a binary and a text option. However, the text conversion typically only works on a portion of the document. The fonts are stubbornly binary. And they're embedded subset fonts, and do not contribute to a workflow at all (they're a barrier to editing). Most of the newer options in PDF, are just there to break things, as you would expect. You would be very lucky today, to have a (string) with a Tj as in this example. This document is the soul of simplicity, because it was hand generated (by someone). ******************** Yet another hello.pdf ************************** %PDF-1.2 1 0 obj << /Type /Page /Parent 5 0 R /Resources 3 0 R /Contents 2 0 R >> endobj 2 0 obj << /Length 51 <=== A forward declaration of the stream length >> These are part of keeping humans at bay... stream BT /F1 24 Tf 1 0 0 1 260 254 Tm (Hello World)Tj <=== This is how we keep text on a bearing line ET endstream endobj 3 0 obj << /ProcSet[/PDF/Text] /Font <</F1 4 0 R >> >> endobj 4 0 obj << /Type /Font /Subtype /Type1 /Name /F1 /BaseFont/Helvetica <=== Relies on the viewer-prog having Helvetica (in correct format). >> Modern docs have embedded subset fonts (to disable "editing"). endobj 5 0 obj << /Type /Pages /Kids [ 1 0 R ] /Count 1 /MediaBox [ 0 0 612 446 ] >> endobj 6 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 5 0 R >> endobj trailer << /Root 6 0 R >> ******************** Yet another hello.pdf ************************** Paul
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Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:45 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-29 17:13 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:43 +0200
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Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:21 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:20 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:44 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:07 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:46 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 18:10 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:35 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:34 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 06:07 -1100
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 19:49 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 08:24 -1100
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:59 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 20:11 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:46 -0700
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Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:18 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files PDF Files <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 21:05 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2026-09-29 18:26 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 16:51 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:47 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:40 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:19 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:27 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 20:56 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 00:34 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:15 -0400
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Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:26 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:55 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-09-29 22:45 -0500
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:23 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:23 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:05 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 18:53 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:40 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:09 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 18:21 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:30 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 18:58 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:42 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 21:35 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:56 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 16:12 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 19:50 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:57 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:34 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 20:19 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-02 17:54 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 06:53 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 07:34 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:58 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 09:30 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:36 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 06:29 -1100
Re: Editing PDF files PDF Files <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:17 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 16:07 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 01:59 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 06:57 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:26 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-09-30 13:25 -0500
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:39 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 20:26 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 10:48 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:50 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:11 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 13:44 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:14 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:12 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> - 2026-09-30 12:24 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 16:08 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:13 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 09:52 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:33 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Arkadiusz 'Black Fox' Artyszuk <asdfadsasdfa@atomicmail.io> - 2026-10-02 12:41 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 05:37 -1100
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