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Re: newline mangling again

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On 2026/9/24 23:16:7, Jörg Knobloch wrote:
> On 24 Sept 2026 21:50, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> What puzzles me is how such bugs get in in the first place: why was
>> someone tinkering with the compose-editor code at all: what were they
>> trying to fix/add? It's been working fine (well, acceptably) for some
>> versions. (I think it was last faulty - though arguably less so than
>> this time - until somewhere between, I think, 138 and about 144.)
> 
> Please read this blog post to understand how Thunderbird code is structured:
> https://blog.betterbird.eu/2026/08/lets-fill-the-summer-hole-with-some-regressions
> Read from: To understand what has happened, ...

I tried. I'd just been watching the Star Trek: TNG episode in which the
Enterprise was taken over by some rogue Ferengi; Riker was ordered to
turn the computer back on, "and show Mog exactly how to use it". So he
started to explain, laboriously (and probably making up along the way)
... "is proportional to the square root of ... multiplied by ...". I
started to read from the point you suggested - and pretty rapidly felt
like Mog ...

> 
> So basically, there was an issue with Firefox on Twitter:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2012342
> In the course of fixing this, a second issue needed to be addressed:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2019689
> 
> And that change caused two problems for Thunderbird. One was fixed, the second 
> one, the disappearing line breaks, wasn't even reported until recently.

Something similar - I don't remember the details, and I don't think it
was quite the same - occurred (and was _mostly_ fixed), and was fixed,
earlier this year; it was there when I started using TB, which I think
was version 138, but had been fixed before 148 (maybe around 144 or 145?).

> 
> Since Thunderbird uses the Mozilla editor, but isn't the main "consumer". If 
> things change/break in the editor, Thunderbird is affected. And lastly, plaintext 
> editing is a special case, only grudgingly supported by the Mozilla core devs, 
> since its only "consumer" is Thunderbird, and there, a few elderly gentlemen 
> hanging out on the newsgroups using plaintext.

I'm not _that_ old :-)! And I use plain text for emails too, apart from
the old _underline_ *bold* /italic/ conventions.

> 
> If your problem were: "Editing on X doesn't work", Mozilla would jump. But your 
> problem is: "Editing (mostly) on news doesn't work", so no one cares.
> 
> Is that clear now?
> 
Yes. So if we greybeards are being ignored, why is it being fixed (on BB
anyway)?
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than going to a
garage makes you a car." - Laurence J. Peter

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newline mangling again "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-16 18:30 +0100
  Re: newline mangling again "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-16 18:35 +0100
  Re: newline mangling again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-16 19:00 +0100
    Re: newline mangling again "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-16 19:07 +0100
  Re: newline mangling again Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-09-23 12:21 +0200
    Re: newline mangling again "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 13:53 +0100
      Re: newline mangling again Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-09-23 15:08 +0200
    Re: newline mangling again Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-09-24 20:04 +0200
      Re: newline mangling again "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 20:50 +0100
        Re: newline mangling again Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-09-25 00:16 +0200
          Re: newline mangling again "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:09 +0100
            Re: newline mangling again Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-09-25 23:37 +0200

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