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Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed?

From "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Newsgroups uk.tech.broadcast
Subject Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed?
Date 2026-09-19 00:38 +0100
Organization 255 software
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On 2026/9/18 22:57:14, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 14/09/2026 03:12, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> Yes, the relevant prog.s (e. g. vintage Mastermind), when I looked on my
>> HD set (when they were being broadcast on an HD channel as well as an SD
>> one), were correctly pillarboxed. It's just when viewed on my SD set (on
>> an SD channel, obviously), or the HD set on an SD channel, they have
>> started to appear full-screen, and thus distorted (squashed/stretched).
>> Until sometime in the last month or so, that set displayed such material
>> pillarboxed automatically (though for some reason I had to turn
>> subtitles off for that to work). Now it doesn't; I can only assume that
>> the broadcasters - who are clearly broadcasting the material full-width
>> - have stopped setting the flag.
> 
> Have you ever seen any of the Indian news channels on satellite? They 
> are full of feeds from events or remote studios at the wrong aspect ratio?
> 
> I suspect the BBC is almost unique among the worlds broadcasters in 
> really wanting to do everything correctly and in the highest possible 
> quality.
> 
They're better than many - but the vintage Mastermind I was watching was
on a BBC channel (2 or 4). The HS version (102 or 106) _was_ correctly
pillarboxed, but the SD one was not.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The voices of Radio 4 continuity and newsreading have been keeping me
right for as long as I can remember. I can call on a million different
information sources, but it doesn't make sense unti I've heard it from
Peter, Harriet, Charlotte and the rest.
- Eddie Mair in Radio Times 10-16 November 2012

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Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-07 21:28 +0100
  Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-13 21:11 +0100
    Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-13 22:39 +0100
    Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-13 23:39 +0100
      Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-14 03:12 +0100
        Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-18 22:50 +0100
          Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-19 00:36 +0100
        Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-18 22:57 +0100
          Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-19 00:38 +0100
            Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-19 05:03 +0100
              Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-19 22:01 +0100
    Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-09-14 09:55 +0000
      Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-14 14:37 +0100
        Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-14 19:15 +0100
    Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-09-18 09:19 +0000
      Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-18 13:09 +0100
        Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 22:13 +0100
        Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-18 22:42 +0100
        Re: Has the way the 4:3 flag is broadcast been changed? wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-09-20 19:03 +0000

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