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Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail)

From Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design, comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail)
Date 2026-09-18 22:04 +0000
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:36:33 +1000, Bill Sloman wrote:

> It didn't stop him getting an international patent on
> counter-current continuous cooking, where you convert wood chips
> into paper pulp by letting them fall down through a rising stream of
> sodium hydroxide. solution. We did get international visitors. One
> was
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Richter_(inventor)
>
> who'd invented the concurrent continuous digestor that my father
> eventually modified for counter-current operation. Johan had tried
> for some ten years to get it to work counter-current, and his
> company (Kamyr) never paid any royalty on my father's patent, though
> the industry adopted the process very rapidly.

But you don’t need to prove something works before getting a patent.

Thomas Edison put together the first working electric light-bulb. Did
he get the patent on it? No, because that was already taken by Joseph
Swan.

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  Re: google reads your mail "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-12 11:20 -0400
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      Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-13 02:36 +1000
        Re: google reads your mail john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-12 12:46 -0700
          Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-13 15:41 +1000
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        Re: google reads your mail Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-13 15:16 +0000
    Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-13 15:48 +1000
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                Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-16 21:37 +1000
                Re: google reads your mail Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-16 21:08 +0800
                Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-16 23:57 +1000
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                Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-17 16:51 +1000
                Re: google reads your mail Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-17 02:43 -0600
                Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-17 23:34 +1000
                Re: google reads your mail Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-17 08:43 -0600
                Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-18 15:36 +1000
                Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-18 22:04 +0000
                Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail) Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-20 02:25 +1000
                Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-19 22:03 +0000
                Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail) Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-20 16:13 +1000
                Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-20 08:09 +0000
                Re: Patents (was Re: google reads your mail) Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-20 18:25 +1000
            Re: google reads your mail "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 14:33 +0200
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        Re: google reads your mail Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-17 17:03 +1000
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            Re: google reads your mail "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 03:42 +0800
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                Re: google reads your mail Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-18 08:54 -0600
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