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Re: past,present,future

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Sam Wormley wrote:

> On 5/4/16 5:03 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 5/1/16 5:54 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> if the past doesn't exist..
>>>> and the future does not exist
>>>
>>>    If you look at this diagram,
>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_line.svg
>>>
>>>    You will notice that event are basically in the future or the past.
>>>    What we think of as now, is usually always in the past.
>>
>> How did you get that idea?
> 
>    Basically the 10s of millisecond to hundreds of milliseconds delay
>    from stimulus to awareness.

Granted.
 
>    And, of course, due to the finite speed of light--when we look out, we
>    look back in time. Event on the sun, a bit more than 8 minutes.
>    Meteor splatter on the moon, about 1.3 second. Your dinner partner at
>    a distance of 4 feet, about 4 ns in the past.

This logic is flawed because we have to define “now” in *our* frame of 
reference, based on c.

I had set and announced Followup-To .relativity; I am doing it again.
Please stop the mindless crossposting then.

-- 
PointedEars

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past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 15:54 -0700
  Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 18:18 -0500
    Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 16:59 -0700
      Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 18:59 -0700
        Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 21:02 -0500
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 22:46 -0700
          Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 10:01 -0700
            Re: past,present,future Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-02 21:39 -0500
              Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 21:20 -0700
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 22:46 -0700
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 00:15 -0700
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 20:55 -0700
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-03 22:17 -0700
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-08 22:36 -0700
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-09 21:21 -0700
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-11 13:35 -0700
    Re: past,present,future RustyJames <extremesoundandlight@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-09 00:47 -0700
  Re: past,present,future Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:21 -0700
  Re: past,present,future David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2016-05-02 20:29 -0600
    Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-02 19:11 -0700
  Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 07:38 -0500
    Re: past,present,future Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-05 00:03 +0200
      Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 19:27 -0500
        Re: past,present,future Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-05 03:14 +0200
    Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-04 23:08 -0700
      Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 09:16 -0500
        Re: past,present,future Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-06 19:58 +0200
          Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-06 11:11 -0700
      Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-05 09:40 -0700
        Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 15:29 -0500
          Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-05 23:24 -0700
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-06 11:13 -0700
        Re: past,present,future mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-08 23:30 -0700
  Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 20:38 -0500
    Re: past,present,future benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-04 23:26 -0400
      Re: past,present,future "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 20:49 -0700
        Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-05 23:30 -0700
          Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 08:42 -0500
            Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-06 11:05 -0700
              Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 18:18 -0500
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-06 20:30 -0700
                Re: past,present,future Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 22:33 -0500
                Re: past,present,future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-06 20:58 -0700
                Re: past,present,future Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-05-06 22:08 -0600
                Re: past,present,future Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-07 19:07 +0200
      Re: past,present,future Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-04 23:59 -0500

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