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Re: c needs this sign

From fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: c needs this sign
Date 2026-09-10 01:09 +0200
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fir pisze:
> bart pisze:
>> On 09/09/2026 23:04, fir wrote:
>>> fir pisze:
>>>> Janis Papanagnou pisze:
>>>>
>>>>> Concerning the "Colon equals" '≔' I mentioned, I mean, why not just
>>>>> use ':=' as usual. The Unicode symbol adds nothing and costs a lot!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this one is in fact quite nice, and practically could be used as is imo
>>>>
>>>> char* txt ≔ "skjnskjns";
>>>> char* txt = "skjnskjns";
>>>>
>>>> its maybe even better looking than oryginal = but this probably 
>>>> depends on font..but from this mentioned it seem the best as for now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a ≔ b=3  //would mean assign true to a if b=3
>>>>
>>>> a=b≔3 //this would mean assign b to 3  andcheck if a=3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hovver im not quite convinced if thise logical 'hypothesis'
>>>> should be cast to arithmetic (maybe yes maybe not i dont know)
>>>>
>>>> if hypothesis not casted it could mean that if would no need 
>>>> oparators at all maybe just syntax
>>>>
>>>> hypothesis statement
>>>>
>>>> like
>>>>
>>>> a<4 print "ssasa"
>>>>
>>>> 0<x<size x ≔ rand()
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> overally good one
>>>
>>> i may announce
>>>
>>> AS FOR NOW ≔ IS A WINNER (applause)
>>>
>>
>> So, what happens now?
>>
>> Do you implement this in your enhanced version of C, or in a new 
>> language (hard)?
>>
>> Or persuade someone else to add it to C or some other mainstream 
>> language (magnitudes harder)?
>>
>> Personally I find it near impossible to see, and near impossible to 
>> type. Still, I added it to my language (which already uses :=) to see 
>> how it works:
>>
>>      a := 10
>>      b ≔ 20
>>      c := 30
>>
>  (...)
> as to visibility i think its only dependant on which font you use
> for example notepad uses consolas and in this font its look quite good 
> for me (as i said imo better than oryginal = )
> 
> 

it may be matter of taste , becouse if you like c := 30 you seem to have 
different taste than i ;c becouse for me its not standable

for this two in c = and == the set ≔ and = is much better

but as i said it very much must depend on font i guess

(i wouldnt also consider ≔ as a final choice for assigment but for now
as for replace in traditional c is best i seen as for the moment

i myself condider in fact two langueges one is slightly improved c 
(close to traditional c)  and one is maybe yet more radically improved c 
and in the second i could maybe search for something more futuristic as 
assigment, i dont know yet

but for traditional i may repeat  ≔ =  much better than = == andmuch 
better than := =

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c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-07 15:53 +0200
  Re: c needs this sign David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2026-09-07 19:21 +0000
    Re: c needs this sign Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-08 01:10 +0200
      Re: c needs this sign Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2026-09-07 23:13 +0000
        Re: c needs this sign Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-07 17:26 -0600
      Re: c needs this sign David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-08 10:40 +0200
        Re: c needs this sign Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-09 10:49 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-09 13:21 +0200
            Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-09 13:33 +0200
            Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-09 21:37 +0200
              Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-10 09:01 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-10 23:13 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 14:54 -0700
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-10 22:17 +0000
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 15:48 -0700
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-09-11 10:51 +0100
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-11 12:49 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-11 16:28 +0000
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-11 02:03 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 17:13 -0700
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-11 02:24 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-11 09:42 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-09 23:59 +0200
            Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:04 +0200
              Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:16 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:30 +0200
              Re: c needs this sign bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-09-09 23:44 +0100
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:55 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:09 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:21 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:36 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:45 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-15 07:23 +0000
      Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 11:56 +0200
        Re: c needs this sign bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-09-08 11:14 +0100
          Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 12:28 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 03:54 -0700
            Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 13:13 +0200
            = vs. == (again!) (Was: c needs this sign) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-09-08 14:39 +0000
              Re: = vs. == (again!) (Was: c needs this sign) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-14 23:36 -0700
            Re: c needs this sign Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-09 11:13 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-09 00:29 +0000
            Re: c needs this sign "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 13:42 -0700
      Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 15:12 +0200
  Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-08 03:33 +0000
    Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 12:02 +0200
      Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-09 00:27 +0000

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