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Re: c needs this sign

From bart <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: c needs this sign
Date 2026-09-08 11:14 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 08/09/2026 10:56, fir wrote:
> Janis Papanagnou pisze:
>> On 2026-09-07 21:21, David LaRue wrote:
>>> fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> wrote in news:117mfle$3aage$1@dont- 
>>> email.me:
>>>
>>>> im not sure if in usenet message i am able to draw it but maybe put it
>>>> in some editor that has font where chars are same size
>>>>
>>>> .................
>>>> .................
>>>> .................
>>>> ..*************..
>>>> ..*************..
>>>> .................
>>>> .................
>>>> ..*************..
>>>> ..*************..
>>>> ..**.............
>>>> ..**.............
>>>> .................
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it is like = but with some small line, suggestin it is for assign 
>>>> not for
>>>> equality,,, asci dont have it more worse im not sure if even unicode 
>>>> has
>>>> it and this is shocking
>>
>> I'm lacking context why you need that, for what you need that, what it
>> is supposed to mean - differentiate assignment from equality; is that
>> what you tried to express? - and why it's non-existence is "shocking".
>>
> 
> 
> i make some deductions about C (im not sure if i can it deduction here 
> but it is thinking with yeald to quite grounded conclusions (i find it 
> almost scientific - in some way)
> 
> some time ago (not even so long it was probably like i was lats time 
> visiting this group) i concluded that if(a==3) is wrong and it seems
> one and only proper way here is   if(a=3) it means = may be for 
> comparison, not for assigment

It IS wrong in my view, but the fact is that most languages now use '=' 
for assignment, and those using C-like syntax use '==' for equality.

C is obviously never going to change, but some languages do still use 
'=' for equality, and for assignment they might use any of:

   :=
   <-
   ->
   =       (when assignments are not allowed in expression)

A few might use a quite different syntax (eg. Lisp or COBOL).

Using an obscure, hard to see and hard to type symbol like ⥫ is not 
practical.

(I use '=' for equality, ':=' for runtime assignment, but I also use '=' 
for compile-time assignments and identities, since there is no ambiguity.)

Of course this might all be irrelevant in a couple more years when 
everyone uses tools to write code for them.

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c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-07 15:53 +0200
  Re: c needs this sign David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2026-09-07 19:21 +0000
    Re: c needs this sign Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-08 01:10 +0200
      Re: c needs this sign Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2026-09-07 23:13 +0000
        Re: c needs this sign Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-07 17:26 -0600
      Re: c needs this sign David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-08 10:40 +0200
        Re: c needs this sign Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-09 10:49 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-09 13:21 +0200
            Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-09 13:33 +0200
            Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-09 21:37 +0200
              Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-10 09:01 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-10 23:13 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 14:54 -0700
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-10 22:17 +0000
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 15:48 -0700
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-09-11 10:51 +0100
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-11 12:49 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-11 16:28 +0000
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-11 02:03 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 17:13 -0700
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-11 02:24 +0200
                Re: Support of Unicode characters in various places (was Re: c needs this sign) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-11 09:42 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-09 23:59 +0200
            Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:04 +0200
              Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:16 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:30 +0200
              Re: c needs this sign bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-09-09 23:44 +0100
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 00:55 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:09 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:21 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:36 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 01:45 +0200
                Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-15 07:23 +0000
      Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 11:56 +0200
        Re: c needs this sign bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-09-08 11:14 +0100
          Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 12:28 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 03:54 -0700
            Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 13:13 +0200
            = vs. == (again!) (Was: c needs this sign) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-09-08 14:39 +0000
              Re: = vs. == (again!) (Was: c needs this sign) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-14 23:36 -0700
            Re: c needs this sign Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-09-09 11:13 +0200
          Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-09 00:29 +0000
            Re: c needs this sign "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 13:42 -0700
      Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 15:12 +0200
  Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-08 03:33 +0000
    Re: c needs this sign fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 12:02 +0200
      Re: c needs this sign Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-09 00:27 +0000

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