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| From | Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | uk.tech.digital-tv |
| Subject | Re: Green? |
| Date | 2026-09-05 07:50 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <117ge4f$19sob$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <117drmq$do1v$1@dont-email.me> <5d12f9855bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> <117e6lm$hv81$1@dont-email.me> <117e9e6$fm2k$2@dont-email.me> |
On 04/09/2026 12:18, David Wade wrote: > On 04/09/2026 11:31, JMB99 wrote: >> On 04/09/2026 10:30, Bob Latham wrote: >>> I was reading somewhere the other day that in the 1960s and 70s car >>> handbooks that came with the car, told how to gap the plugs, set the >>> points and even adjust the tappets. Now they tell you not to drink >>> the battery acid. >> >> >> >> My new VW does not come with a handbook just a 'digital handbook' >> online. You can access it on the screen in the car I think and you can >> download (when you find it) but it is not particularly printer friendly >> as well as many hundreds of pages and no page numbers. >> > > Thats a bit odd. Just picked up a newish ID.4 and it has a paper manual > but I see on checking these are not available for all cars. > > You can find the on-line manual here :- > > https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/my-car/manuals.html > > but you can only view online. It does not appear to be available as a > PDF download. > > >> Also VW are hopeless at writing handbooks. >> >> > I think they are all written by lawyers. My old Merc one had warnings on > every page that pretty much said "Do this and you may crash the car" I think that translation can be a problem, and sometimes a wish to have a unique name for something that the manufacturer thinks is special. When I bought my Mk3 Honda Jazz almost 10 years ago I was surprised that it came with only a 600+ page paper manual. No online or pdf version was available, at least not for the UK. I found a pdf in the USA for the "Honda Fit" (strange name for a car!) and downloaded it. Quite a bit was the same, but there were many differences too. One particular problem was trying to find things that Honda gave daft names to, so how they worked could be checked, and any adjustments made. They had an automatic brake come into operation if you got too close to anything in front with a small speed difference. This they called "City-Brake Active system". Why, as it still works outside the city? The abbreviation they used for this was CTBA, not CBAS. Again, why? It took me quite a time to find this in the paper manual index, as I was looking under "Brake". There wasn't even an entry which said "Also see City-Brake Active system". No, manuals leave a lot to be desired, especially as cars are getting extremely complex these days. -- Jeff
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Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 08:24 +0100
Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 08:09 +0000
Re: Green? Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-04 10:52 +0100
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 11:32 +0100
Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-04 10:30 +0100
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 11:31 +0100
Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:18 +0100
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 23:09 +0100
Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:00 +0100
Re: Green? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-05 07:50 +0100
Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-05 09:37 +0100
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-05 20:55 +0100
Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-08 13:51 +0100
Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-08 14:22 +0100
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Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-08 19:12 +0100
Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 09:57 +0100
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Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:02 +0100
Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:11 +0100
Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-04 13:26 +0100
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-04 23:06 +0100
Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-05 00:02 +0100
Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-05 06:15 +0000
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-05 08:15 +0100
Re: Green? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-05 09:19 +0100
Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:12 +0100
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Re: Green? Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-07 09:00 +0100
Re: Green? Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-09-07 12:12 +0100
Re: Green? Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-08 08:54 +0100
Re: Green? Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2026-09-08 09:04 +0100
Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 08:13 +0000
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-08 10:10 +0100
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Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-14 10:19 +0100
Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-14 11:02 +0100
Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-14 19:07 +0100
Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-14 21:54 +0100
Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 05:34 +0000
Re: Green? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-15 09:38 +0100
Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 08:48 +0000
Re: Green? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-15 09:54 +0100
Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-15 09:37 +0100
Re: Green? Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 09:02 +0000
Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-15 09:27 +0100
Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-15 10:36 +0100
Re: Green? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-09-15 11:03 +0100
Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-15 11:28 +0100
Re: Green? JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-08 10:02 +0100
Re: Green? Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-08 20:14 +0100
Re: Green? Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-09-12 00:33 +0100
Re: Green? Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> - 2026-09-18 11:29 +0000
Re: Green? John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-09-08 18:47 +0100
Re: Green? alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:05 +0100
Re: Green? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-05 11:21 +0100
Re: Green? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:12 +0100
Re: Green? Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-09-04 18:31 +0100
Re: Green? Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> - 2026-09-08 18:48 +0100
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