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Re: Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine)

From "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Newsgroups news.admin.moderation
Subject Re: Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine)
Date 2026-08-28 12:36 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <116s8f6$2fhor$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org> wrote:

>[This post is directed to the moderator of comp.compilers, John Levine, 
>whose mail server is bouncing messages from the Big-8 Management Board 
>and from the operator of a moderation relay. . . . 

He'd announced publicly in 2025 that his life was completely disrupted by
events he could not control and wanted a volunteer to take over
moderation of misc.taxes.moderated. I wasn't aware that he also
moderated this group.

I asked some silly questions on Usenet and got some answers and
mostly figured out what I needed to do to manually approve articles.
There would have been two of us.

I dropped the ball on this but kind of lost interest as regulars had
stopped submitting articles. Didn't seem to be a group to keep going,

Because of serious nonsense in the unmoderated group many years ago, its
regulars wanted a moderated group for more serious discussion and must
have won the vote. I assume this was during the tale era.

I don't know when John took it over but he provided technical support,
with others doing the article approvals.

The only solution is for someone to volunteer to take over duties from
John. He always said if there was a volunteer, he'd confirm that he'd
relinquish moderation duties.

I'm shocked that John's hosts remained up this long.

As always, B8MB is asking the wrong question. Let's assume John is NEVER
going to change his mind. The question to ask is, If someone feels
strongly enough that one of the groups John moderates needs to continue
to exist as a moderated group, will he step forward and volunteer to put
up a server?

Moderation, with its single point of failure, was, is, and always will
be failure waiting to happen. Even if I had followed through, I'm just
barely competent enough to understand headers and the other moderator
would have needed to do things manually. If I stopped doing it, there
would have been no one else. My own volunteering was in violation of
successful moderation.

Once again, I implore B8MB never again to re-assign duties unless there
is a team to perform the work. Stop setting up all new single points of
failure.

I subscribe to a specific low-traffic moderatd groups.io mailing list.
Its owner knew he was dying and asked for volunteers. I volunteered.
Ultimately he made six subscribers, including me, co-owners.

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Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine) Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org> - 2026-08-27 23:24 -0400
  Re: Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-08-28 12:36 -0400
    Re: Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-08-28 15:49 -0400
      Re: Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine) Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2026-08-28 16:42 -0400
        Re: Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-08-28 18:59 -0400
  Re: Moderation of comp.compilers (ATTN: John Levine) Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org> - 2026-08-28 15:49 -0400

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