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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.software.thunderbird |
| Subject | Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post |
| Date | 2026-08-17 16:50 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <115vs60$1an6r$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Mon, 8/17/2026 3:12 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 8/17/26 04:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-16 22:31, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 8/16/26 11:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>> On 2026/8/16 6:35:32, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> []
>>>>> I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.
>>>>>
>>>> By write-protect, do you mean protect from deletion, for messages? (For
>>>> tabs - I'm Edge - I don't have many problems of deletion: my main one is
>>>> accidental drag-tp-(make-)new-window.)
>>>
>>> Messages in TB and tabs in FF. I want to delete a lot of the mail I get, but I'd like some to NEVER be deleted. Moving it elsewhere is undesirable. For some inexplicable reason FF tabs delete themselves sometimes and I'd just as soon have that controllable. "Pinning" just makes them invisible, which seems wrong on several levels.
>>>
>>> FF does that drag-to-new-window thing too, which is miserably annoying. Who even wants such a thing?
>>
>> Mail can not be protected from deletion because the engine in the back
>> (imap) does not support that feature, so forget it. Just move or copy
>> mail elsewhere.
>>
>> I have never seen FFx tabs disappear, and I have thousands of them. I
>> use Linux, though.
>
> So do I. Slackware 14.2. Don't ask. Probably no more than 50 at a time, but perhaps a dozen that I NEVER want to close -- and sometimes they disappear. Anomalies happen. Sometimes xscreensaver doesn't start. Same with xdaliclock. Sometimes I can't see reCaptchas. I can't leave TB folders in the 'unread' state; when I leave TB it goes back to the not-unread state. I put it down to developers considering only apple and windows and ignoring the way linux does things until somebody hits them with a cluebat -- and even then they just do a quick-and-dirty fix because Hey, it's only a few users...
>
Memtest.
No OS is that daft. Check your RAM for problems :-)
If your graphics card is out of support, go back to the
frame buffer driver plus MESA for 3D rendering. It will be
slower, but it is also likely to look normal and start stuff.
If you had an NVidia video card, Nouveau is the unaccelerated driver.
Many OSes install with that in control. The Microsoft equivalent
of such, is the Microsoft Basic Display Adapter driver. Even Microsoft
has two driver levels, unaccelerated (MBDA) and accelerated (NVidia).
When Linux has a serious problem with graphics... there are no graphics.
There is a login prompt and a text session. It's not a half-ways thing.
Either it runs. Or, it drops dead. Now you know the driver didn't load.
Your driver is loaded. Really weird shit is happening.
Memtest.
I'll make a guess. You have DDR2 memory in the computer.
Give us an "inxi -F" output, so we can get some hardware details.
Even knowing the CPU, gives some identification of how old the
design is, and a rough idea of the DRAM era.
Unaccelerated graphics (inxi output)
----------------------
System:
Host: RODAN Kernel: 6.12.48+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)
...
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1080] driver: nouveau v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nouveau,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 4.3 vendor: mesa v: 25.0.7-2 renderer: NV134
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings x11: xdriinfo,
xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
...
Info:
Memory: total: 64 GiB note: est. available: 62.74 GiB used: 1.27 GiB (2.0%) [DDR3, eight sticks]
Processes: 286 Uptime: 2m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.38
Accelerated graphics
----------------------
System:
Host: foxtrot Kernel: 6.12.48+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.4.10 Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)
...
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1080] driver: nvidia v: 535.274.02
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia
resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nvidia,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 535.274.02
renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings
gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
...
Info:
Memory: total: 64 GiB note: est. available: 62.74 GiB used: 1.75 GiB (2.8%)
Processes: 301 Uptime: 2m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.38
Paul
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Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-15 22:15 +0100
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-08-15 15:10 -0700
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post None <none@none.none> - 2026-08-15 17:25 -0500
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-08-15 16:32 -0700
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-16 00:41 +0100
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 22:35 -0700
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-16 19:47 +0100
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 13:31 -0700
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-08-16 23:53 +0200
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 15:06 -0700
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-17 13:04 +0200
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-17 13:35 +0100
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:52 +0200
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-17 15:12 +0100
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-17 19:45 +0200
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:17 -0700
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:10 -0400
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:50 -0400
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-16 10:13 +0100
Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-16 19:55 +0100
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