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Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers
Date	2026-08-17 11:47 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 12:42:55 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> 
>> I migrated to macOS because I was fed up of juggling both windows
>> and linux systems.
> 
> Both Apple and Microsoft officially support hanging a Linux kernel as
> a bag on the side of their respective proprietary OSes. For Microsoft
> this is officially mandatory for AI development, and in general it is
> pretty much mandatory for any kind of software development on Windows
> nowadays.
> 
> Expect the Apple platform to go the same way, sooner or later.

It's not necessary on macOS as it's natively unix. The vast majority of OSS
tools work OOTB. I do run a linux VM but mostly it's just nostalgia. 

>> With a mac I get the benefits of each in one place. I can create
>> ppts and run my scientific scripts at the same time wherever I may be.
> 
> You found Linux to be a pain, yet you happily put up with Microsoft’s
> walled garden??

I didn't say I found linux to be a pain. Pretty much any professional work
across most industries requires Microsoft or Adobe. Linux can't run those
and the alternatives just aren't compatible enough. I struggled for years
with OpenOffice.

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My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-15 09:19 -0400
  Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 09:28 -0400
  Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 12:58 -0400
    Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-08-15 14:03 -0400
      Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-15 17:19 -0400
        Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-15 16:59 -0500
          Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 03:09 -0400
        Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-16 00:06 +0000
          Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 20:27 -0400
            Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:15 +0200
            Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 12:42 +0000
              Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-16 22:29 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 11:47 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:01 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 00:22 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:27 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 02:42 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:13 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 07:14 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 17:52 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 07:08 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 07:18 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 13:44 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 23:24 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 23:22 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-18 03:50 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 23:13 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 17:53 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 14:07 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 18:55 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:26 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:33 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:46 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 06:59 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:37 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-20 02:36 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 07:29 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:45 -0400
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:48 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-08-19 20:01 +0200
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 18:31 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-08-19 20:36 +0200
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 21:02 +0000
                Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:38 +0000
          Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 04:02 -0400
      Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 08:18 -0400
        Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 18:12 -0700
          Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 22:00 -0400
            Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 20:38 -0700
        Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-16 21:18 -0400
          Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 18:23 -0700
            Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 22:58 -0400
              Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 21:27 -0700
    Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-15 21:14 -0400
      Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-16 04:33 -0400
      Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 16:57 -0400
        Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 18:14 -0700
          Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:11 -0400
            Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-17 20:53 -0700
  Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-15 14:47 -0400
    Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-15 21:16 -0400
    Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 16:56 -0400
  Re: My biggest issue with Apple also affects PC manufacturers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-16 18:06 -0700

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