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Re: Prioritize Correctness over Performance

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Prioritize Correctness over Performance
Date 2026-07-30 06:50 -0400
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On 2026-07-30 02:48, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 07:40:04 +0100, Richard Harnden wrote:
> 
>> Can a pointer have a value of zero, but not be a null pointer?
> 
> C doesn’t define any special pointer values, other than the null
> pointer. The null pointer can be compared for equality with (a
> suitable cast of) the integer literal 0 (I’m not sure, it might be
> that arbitrary integer expressions evaluating to 0 are not allowed),

True. Only integer constant expressions with a value of 0 qualify as
null pointer constants. If an integer variable named zero had a value of
zero, then "zero" is an integer expression with a value of zero, but
because it's not a constant expression, conversion of "zero" to a
pointer type is not guaranteed to produce a null pointer constant.
However, on most implementations, especially those where a pointer
object with all-bits-0 does represent a null pointer, that conversion is
likely to produce one. You just need to remember that it's not required
to do so.
However, any integer constant expression, regardless of type, does
qualify as a null pointer constant, even

	1LL-'\001'

> but that is not considered grounds for concluding/requiring that the
> bit pattern for the null pointer is actually equal to the integer
> value 0.

Correct.

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                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:30 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-07-25 10:37 +0200
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-27 00:35 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 12:39 -0500
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-07-26 22:27 +0100
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 18:02 -0500
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-25 22:32 +0000
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 15:58 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-07-25 10:23 +0200
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:29 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:25 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 15:33 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-27 00:38 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 17:06 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-07-26 17:03 +0000
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:50 -0500
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:13 -0700
            Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 15:26 -0500
        Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-07-23 11:18 +0200

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