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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? |
| Date | 2026-07-28 20:43 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <114b4a8$ca3r$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote: > Chris wrote: >> Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote: >>> Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? >>> https://copilot.microsoft.com/ >>> >> >> Just use a local model and don't bother with any of the online ones. They >> will *always* use you as training data unless you pay for a firewalled >> model. Doesn't matter whether you login or not. > > Thanks for that idea, which, I agree, is the best way to run an LLM. > > I researched the local models and they're perfect except... except that > they take a ton of disk space and seem to require a beefy machine. > > Dunno if my 2009 Windows 10 desktop can handle a local model but I do agree > that's the way to go for someone like me who cares about privacy. > > I'll have to look into it 'cuz these web-page LLMs have gotten me hooked on > the convenience, but, one by one, they've each started requiring a login. Well, then. Looks like you're going to have put a price on your desire for "privacy". > Looking it up, while other families exist (e.g., Qwen, DeepSeek, Gemma, > Mistral), apparently Llama remains the most widely used on Windows. > > Disk space needed seems to be about 3-7 GB for an 8 billion parameters LLM > model, and maybe around 30-40 GB for a 70 billion parameters LLM model. > > Parameters are the learned weights inside the neural network, where more > parameters add deeper reasoning and stronger language ability. > > Apparently disk space depends on quantization (i.e., compression) though. > > Looking it up... > The big problem is RAM where 64¡V128 GB RAM is normal for local LLMs. > The GPU needs to have VRAM starting at around 48 GB for local LLMs too. > > Apparently nost consumer GPUs (RTX 3060/3070/3080/4070/4080) will not work > as we need workstation-class cards (i.e., RTX 6000 Ada, A100, H100, etc.). Lol no. That's the spec for *training* an LLM. Running an LLM requires a lot less.
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Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-27 18:20 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-27 21:50 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-28 10:09 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:36 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-28 09:53 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? CoPilot User <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 19:02 +0100
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-28 11:32 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 17:09 +0000
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-28 10:46 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-28 14:35 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 20:43 +0000
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:15 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-28 14:11 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-28 19:22 +0100
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-28 19:31 +0100
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-28 12:15 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-28 12:04 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-28 20:21 +0100
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Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:46 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-29 02:23 -0700
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-07 19:30 -0800
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-08 01:03 -0400
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Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-08 14:56 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-09 09:31 -0800
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Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 14:45 -0400
Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:42 -0800
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