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Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness

From bart <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness
Date 2026-07-28 14:17 +0100
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On 28/07/2026 13:18, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> On 28/07/2026 8:02 PM, bart wrote:

>>
>> In any case, there is no conversion to int involved; it is just has to 
>> implement that comparison by whatever means works.
>>

> On the other hand, to the programmer, especially those not who have not
> and never will read the C language standard, it does look like the p
> pointer is "truncated" to an integer valued 0 or 1, in boolean context.

It doesn't look like that all. This is just testing for 'truthiness', 
which in many languages can be applied to data types such as strings or 
lists.

'Truncation' doesn't work either: you can have all-bits-zero NULL, and a 
value for 'p' of 0x123456 - truncating to one bit would give you zero, 
which is false.

There is also rarely any result - no value needs to be yielded when the 
result just affects control-flow.

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                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 15:58 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-07-25 10:23 +0200
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:29 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:25 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 15:33 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-27 00:38 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 17:06 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-07-26 17:03 +0000
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:50 -0500
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:13 -0700
            Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 15:26 -0500
        Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-07-23 11:18 +0200

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