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Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026?

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026?
Date	2026-07-28 04:36 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<1149pn3$3tada$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On Mon, 7/27/2026 9:20 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Can anyone get Edge Copilot to work without logging in after July 2026?
>   https://copilot.microsoft.com/
> 
> As of this month, whenever I use MS Edge to go to Copilot, no matter what
> tricks I use, it wants me to immediately log into a mothership account.
> 
> I can only find one trick that still works, and it only works in Edge.
> But with no other browser can I get copilot to not ask for a login now.
> 
> Q: Other than sidebar Copilot, did you Copilot in Edge just recently ask
> for a login to a mothership account every time you go to it using Edge?
> 
> NB: A separate thread on the Firefox ng shows nobody can do it there.
>  Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.firefox
>  Subject: Recently, did your Firefox stop using Microsoft Copilot in anonymous mode?
>  Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2026 14:00:07 -0700
>  Message-ID: <1145sgm$1cju$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
> 

There is "registration" and there is "logging in".

CoPilot is listed as "no registration", but if it is
actually powered by an MSA login, then that amounts to registration.

If you don't have an MSA on the machine, then they can't tap
into the MSA scheme. That's probably why my CoPilot sessions
which are inside MSEdge, are friction free, as they know who
I am, and it is my entry of the PIN at the beginning of
a session which counts as an MSA login. You might not be able
to set up a PIN, without an MSA, just a guess on my part, as
I haven't tried to set up a PIN on anything other than the
Daily Driver (which happens to have an MSA).

https://inventwithpython.com/blog/free-llms.html

   "Assume that free services may have daily usage limits, and that sites that
    don't require registration may limit how much you can use them before
    signing up for a free account.

    You should absolutely assume that all content you submit as well as your
    browser settings and IP address are recorded, sold, and matched to your
    personal identity otherwise by the AI company.
   "

   "My rough top recommendations for coding tutors are ChatGPT, Claude, and DeepSeek,
    but here are the acceptable free AI services I've found:

    Duck.ai (from DuckDuckGo) - No registration required. Uses other AI companies' models
                                but acts as an anonymous relay. (This is not verified.)
    ChatGPT (from OpenAI) - No registration required.
    Gemini (from Google) - No registration required.
    Claude (from Anthropic) - Free account registration required.
    DeepSeek (from DeepSeek) - Free account registration required.
    Copilot (from Microsoft) - No registration required.
    Poe (from Twitch.tv) - Free account registration required.

    I don't recommend the following for their deceptive UI practices
    (They appear free but require registration after you've submitted a prompt):

    Perplexity (from Perplexity)
    Mistral (from Mistral AI)
    Meta (from Meta / Facebook)
    Grok (from X / Twitter)

    I have slight recommendations against the following:

    Shiori (from Shiori.ai) - Free account registration required. Uses other
                              AI companies' models. I don't recommend it because
                              this probably means their business model is personal
                              information collection. They may be fine, but they don't
                              have the reputation of DuckDuckGo for privacy.

    (Updated June 12, 2026)
   "

As far as I know, the CoPilot.App always looked for an MSA via a Microsoft login,
whereas the MSEdge version is likely obtaining your details via other means.
You would think the CoPilot.App via WebView2, would be as adept as MSEdge
at this, but maybe not.

You can keep an AI model locally, but that's an acquired taste.
Models range from Google Gemma at 4GB, to the largest Kimi model at
1.6TB RAM and 100GB+ VRAM (four hundred times bigger). And with the
current RAM pricing, building a machine with that much RAM, you'll
need to win the lottery to be able to afford it. That's about 100K
worth of RAM, for that big model. The processor by comparison,
is "almost free" :-)

   Paul

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