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Re: 1950s cinema broadcast

From NY <me@privacy.net>
Newsgroups uk.tech.broadcast
Subject Re: 1950s cinema broadcast
Date 2026-07-27 10:30 +0100
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On 26/07/2026 21:42, Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 13:53:40 +0100, John Williamson
> <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 26/07/2026 13:34, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> On 2026/7/26 11:11:13, Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> Any film made from the actual video of the time - whether for archival
>>> purposes or to fly - would have been that made from just one field, i.
>>> e. 187.5 lines of picture information, as that was all they could do. I
>>> _think_ what was flown to America for showing _quickly_ was if that
>>> nature; presumably, they later got the colour film also shot at the event.
>>>
>> The colour could have been flown to America on the same plane as the
>> monochrome made from the video. Pathe had a whole system in place for
>> getting the news to the cinemas in a hurry. Process the negative, then
>> edit and copy it while wet, saving a few minutes. From what I was told,
>> they could get an important event such as the cup final out to the
>> cinemas for the matinee show the following day. Motor bikes were
>> involved....
> 
> The above process applies I assume to the monochrome since, as I
> understand it, colour cine film does not have a negative (same as
> transparencies)?


Film shot for amateur use is almost invariably reversal (like a 
slide/transparency) - the film you project is the same as the film that 
you shot in the camera.

Film used for news reports was normally reversal - often Ektachrome 160 
tungsten, with an amber filter for outdoor shooting. That's because it 
is the quickest way of going from undeveloped film to transmission on 
the news.

All other use of film - for cinema or TV drama/documentaries - is/was 
negative. This allowed grading (adjustment of contrast or colour 
balance) and allowed many contact-print copies to be made: copying 
negative to positive is easier than copying positive to positive.

I think film for TV is almost always transmitted from a positive (either 
reversal or print), though I'm sure there were occasions when it was 
transmitted from negative.

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1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 10:39 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-23 11:05 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 12:02 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 13:50 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 15:26 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-23 10:15 +0000
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-23 11:29 +0000
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 13:46 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-23 13:00 +0000
        Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 15:35 +0100
          Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:38 +0100
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 17:42 +0100
              Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:04 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 14:12 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 14:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-08-19 15:21 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 14:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 15:36 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 18:26 +0100
                VVS (was: Re: 1950s cinema broadcast) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 21:25 +0100
                Re: VVS NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 22:52 +0100
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-23 17:43 +0100
              Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 20:20 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 09:48 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 10:27 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2026-07-24 10:50 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 11:03 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 15:36 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:42 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 11:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 12:33 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 15:43 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:51 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-24 15:57 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 16:25 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 17:16 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 17:23 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:10 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 09:41 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-26 11:11 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 13:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-07-26 13:53 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:42 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-07-27 08:31 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-27 10:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 15:28 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-27 10:30 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:12 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-24 13:17 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-24 13:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 14:11 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 19:04 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-25 19:45 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-25 20:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 22:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 23:13 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-26 10:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:28 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 09:47 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:12 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 23:15 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 18:52 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 10:04 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-25 10:29 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 16:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-25 18:54 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 23:06 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-25 18:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 08:53 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-26 09:29 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-26 10:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 13:44 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-25 19:45 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:08 +0000
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:27 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 13:02 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 13:41 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 19:53 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:47 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 15:41 +0100
        Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-27 16:32 +0100
          Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-27 16:55 +0000
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-28 16:08 +0100

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