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Re: No more Redirect page.

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Micky,

>>> "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Paul in Houston TX,
>>>>
>>>>> I have redirects blocked in my browsers and rarely see a
>>>>> notification that a redirect has been blocked.
>>>
>>> Have you used google search in the past week?   Aha, you're not
>>> using Firefox, right?
>>
>> When you respond to someone (me, R.Wieser) make sure that you quote
>> stuff from that person, and not from the grandparent (Paul).
>
> The double > that was in front of the quoted words did not make clear
> to whom I was replying?

No, it didn't.  It just made you look like an inattentive person.

Besides, why didn't you just respond to Pauls post, instead of jamming you 
response to him into your reply to me ?

Something stinks here, and it aint my socks.

> "Guess" is a figure of speech.  It was a logical deduction

In your case ?   No.  You're guessing like a hunter uses buckshot : you 
don't really need to aim, *something* should hit the target, right ?

The problem is that you are oblivious to the fact that we need to go thru 
*all* those buckshot pellets, checking if they hit anything.  Thats quite 
tiresome to anyone who tries to help you.

> It was a logical deduction that they are not doing it now since
> I tried google search in those other two browsers and I didn't
> get a redirect messsage in my new tab.

And even there you used the buckshot-guesses appproach - expecting us to 
figure out what might be the actual cause.  Nonwithstanding that you have 
two other browsers and could (at least attempt to) figure it out for 
yourself.

>> I suggest you think back to that time and try to figure out everything
>> that got changed.  Perhaps it was due to a Firefox update.
>
> Plainly I thought the change was in Google,

Funny that : multiple possibilities, but there you only have a single guess.

... and although you had the tools (two browsers next to Firefox) to figure 
that guess out for yourself* you stil expect us to come up with the answer.

* a simple comparision of the HTML "sourcecode" (limited to a specific "A" 
tag) gotten from your different browsers have would likely have sufficed.

>> Perhaps you, unknowingly, changed the setting yourself.  Perhaps
>> you never noticed, until you did and you now notice it every time.
>
> I didn't change any settings.

... that you know of.

You might just have mashed the "yes" button below a question you did not 
comprehend.  You might even have forgotten that you changed something 
somewhere (and changed it back) not aware of its side-effects.

>> And do take heed of the words of a wise man (most likely a
>> statistican) : correlation does not equal causation.  iow, do not
>> jump to conclusions.
>
> I know that. But something changed.

Possibly.  And one of those changes could be, as I already mentioned, your 
perception (iow: your puter didn't change at all).

>>Did you perhaps disable JS ?
>
> My JS ia on.

That means that, in line with my earlier explanation, Google should not need 
to provide search-result page links pointing to themselves (and than 
redirecting to the actual target).

And fyi, they do not want to use that method, as its too easy to tamper 
with - as you told us you are now doing with that add-on of yours.

>> There is another problem though : you wrote that the add-on would
>> just extract the actual URL from the one thats returned on Googles
>> search-result page.
>
> That sentence was in quotes. IIRC it came from ASI.

And "ASI" is ment to signify ... what ?

But it doesn't really matter.  It (rewriting the links) just happens to be 
what I did myself all those years ago, so I can easily imagine an add-on 
doing the same.

iow, my question still stands : why/how would you get Firefox redirect popup 
messages when the Google result-page links are rewritten to be directly to 
the target webpage ?

>>> Could this be regional?  Or maybe google just doesn't like me.
>>
>> Again: stop making wild guesses.  Or at least stop posting them.
>
> Regional was a reasonable guess.  The second one was meant to be
> humorous.  I'm sorry that you don't share my sense of humor.

That "Regional" was (again) a wild guess.  There is nothing pointing to it, 
and you (again) have got zero to show for it.  Its pretty-much worthless.

As for your "maybe google just doesn't like me" ? Its of the same quality. 
My guess was that you're possibly someone who sees conspiracy theories 
everywhere.  You would not be the first one...

>>> Is it that google itself is only using redirect for FF,
>>
>> Unlikely.  Again, It makes no sense from a corporate point of view.
>>
>> But hey, find yourself a 'puter with Chrome and/or Edge on it and check
>> it out for yourself.
>
> I did that and I gave the result.  Only for FF was there a redirect
> message. That's why I just asked "Is it that google itself is only
> using redirect for FF?"

No, you didn't do that.  The only thing you've told us that Firefox gives 
redirect warnings, while the other two do not.

Goddamn man, you even told us that that could be because the other two 
simply do not give redirect warnings.

iow, all three browser could easily get the same webpage, with only Firefox 
warning you about the redirects.  Is that so hard to understand ?

But again, I suggest you open the HTML "sourcecode" in Firefox and at least 
one other browser you have, and compare them (to what Firefox shows).  That 
should give you your answer.

> I have to learn more about the similarity and difference between
> redirect and reload/refresh.

The difference is easy : A redirect loads another webpage, a refesh re-loads 
the current one.

... although at least one of the "refresh" methods can redirect to another 
webpage.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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No more Redirect page.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-24 11:03 -0400
  Re: No more Redirect page. Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2026-07-25 15:46 -0500
    Re: No more Redirect page. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-25 20:24 -0400
      Re: No more Redirect page. Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2026-07-26 01:37 -0500
        Re: No more Redirect page. "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 09:22 +0200
          Re: No more Redirect page. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-26 11:46 -0400
            Re: No more Redirect page. "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 21:25 +0200
              Re: No more Redirect page. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-26 19:26 -0400
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                Re: No more Redirect page. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-27 10:43 -0400
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                Re: No more Redirect page. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-29 23:01 -0400
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