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Re: Calendars

From "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english, rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject Re: Calendars
Date 2026-07-27 02:20 +0000
Organization United Individualist
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Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> The next time somebody tries to be a smartarse about claiming that
>> the 21st century began in 2001, not 2000, point out to them that
>> there was no “year 1”; the Gregorian Calendar didn’t actually start
>> until 1582.  And in some places, not even then.

> I assume you meant that there was no "year 0", unless you meant
> there wasn't a "year 1" or a "year 2" or ...

I'm not sure what he meant.  There certainly was a year 1, of the
proleptic Gregorian Calendar.  Meaning that nobody called it that at
the time.  But yes, it immediately followed the year 1 BC, which was
also proleptic.  But perfectly well defined.

Just as there certainly was a World War I, even though nobody called
it that at the time.  And some people certainly did speak Old English,
even though nobody called it that at the time.

And Germany definitely exists, even though people in Germany don't
call it Germany.

There was indeed no year 0.  2000 years before the year 1000 was not
1000 BC, but 1001 BC.  2000 years after the year 1000 BC was not 1000
AD, but 1001 AD.  That's not how I would have designed it, but nobody
consulted me.

Similarly with the Julian calendar.

"Proleptic" just means that if anyone tries to sell you a coin marked
something like AD 79 or 44 BC, you'll instantly know it's fake -- even
if the numbers are given as roman numerals.

The 21st century began in 2001, the 20th century began in 1901, ...
the 1st century began in the year 1.  The fact that nobody at the time
called it the year 1 is irrelevant.

The 1st century BC, which should really be called the *last* century
BC, comprised the years 100 BC through 1 BC.

So if Lawrence thinks the 21st century didn't begin in 2001, he must
either think some centuries were longer or shorter than 100 years, or
that the 1st century AD included some dates from 1 BC, or that the
last century BC included some dates from 1 AD.  Or that there was a
year 0.  Or maybe 2 years 0, with 0 BC followed by 0 AD.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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        Re: Retronym? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-19 07:51 -0400
          Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-19 21:54 +0200
        Re: Retronym? "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-19 20:34 +0000
          Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-19 23:32 +0200
            Re: Retronym? Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2026-07-19 19:44 -0400
              Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-20 00:48 +0000
            Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-19 23:47 +0000
              Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-20 10:13 +0200
                Re: Retronym? "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 06:38 -0400
                Re: Retronym? "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-20 11:07 +0000
                Re: Retronym? "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 07:20 -0400
                Re: Retronym? "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-20 14:33 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2026-07-20 11:31 -0400
                Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-21 11:28 +0200
                Re: Retronym? Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> - 2026-07-20 12:50 -0700
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-20 23:02 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-07-21 07:43 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 01:31 +0000
                Re: Retronym? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-21 21:50 -0400
                Re: Retronym? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-07-22 07:55 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 23:02 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-07-23 07:29 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-23 23:23 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-07-24 07:56 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-25 02:20 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-07-25 07:38 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-25 22:47 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 20:59 -0400
                Re: Retronym? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 21:34 -0400
                Re: Retronym? Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 21:59 -0400
                Re: Retronym? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 00:00 -0400
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-26 05:43 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-26 11:54 +1000
                Re: Retronym? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-07-26 07:55 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-26 23:18 +0000
                Re: Retronym? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-26 19:39 -0400
                Re: Retronym? danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2026-07-26 23:44 +0000
                Re: Retronym? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-26 08:17 -0400
                Tomato Plants "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 08:55 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-26 14:02 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-26 16:47 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-26 10:35 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 10:55 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-26 11:01 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 11:36 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-26 19:31 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2026-07-27 06:24 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 08:11 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-27 14:02 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 13:06 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 23:25 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 03:12 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 00:21 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-28 08:10 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 08:46 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-28 14:49 +0100
                Re: Tomato Plants Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-07-28 23:17 +0200
                Re: Tomato Plants wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-28 22:36 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 21:14 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-30 11:44 +0100
                Re: Tomato Plants Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-29 07:10 +0200
                Re: Tomato Plants Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-28 20:33 +0200
                Re: Tomato Plants kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-28 17:08 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 19:47 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2026-07-29 02:19 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-29 17:55 +1000
                Re: Tomato Plants kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-29 17:22 -0400
                Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-29 21:36 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-29 19:59 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 20:17 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2026-07-30 00:37 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 20:48 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-30 00:54 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-29 21:49 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-30 03:57 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 04:39 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-30 06:49 +0100
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2026-07-30 19:20 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:04 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2026-07-30 23:31 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> - 2026-07-30 19:02 -0700
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-30 22:03 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2026-07-31 04:44 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-31 16:46 +1000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-31 08:09 +0100
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 13:04 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-31 09:27 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-07-31 22:29 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-31 23:38 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 19:26 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-31 23:48 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-01 08:10 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-08-01 10:50 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-01 21:15 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-08-01 20:40 -0400
                Neutrinos (waas Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-04 15:42 +0000
                Re: Neutrinos (waas Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-08-05 09:16 -0400
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-05 13:30 +0000
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-05 17:30 +0200
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-05 15:35 +0000
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-05 18:05 -0400
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2026-08-05 16:49 +0100
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-05 17:06 +0100
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-05 18:23 +0000
                Re: Neutrinos (was Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants)) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-06 10:42 +1000
                Re: Neutrinos (waas Re: Life Insurance nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-05 22:22 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 22:52 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-08-03 13:05 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 20:22 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 20:52 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-01 08:08 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 10:43 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-01 16:05 +0100
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 12:04 -0700
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 15:38 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-02 10:05 +1000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-02 09:40 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 10:24 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-02 18:23 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 13:29 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-02 21:57 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 16:33 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-02 21:53 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-08-09 11:03 +0100
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-01 09:27 +1000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-01 08:14 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-01 01:00 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-08-01 10:54 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-08-01 10:47 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-02 10:14 +1000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-02 00:57 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 13:03 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-31 19:31 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 15:38 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Someone Else <SueDominus@example.com.invalid> - 2026-08-01 00:56 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-01 08:17 +0200
                Death Row Exonerations "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 06:52 -0400
                Re: Death Row Exonerations "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-01 11:43 +0000
                Re: Death Row Exonerations Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-02 10:23 +1000
                Re: Death Row Exonerations Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-02 05:50 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-31 06:01 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-31 09:23 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-30 22:15 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:29 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2026-07-31 18:59 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Someone Else <SueDominus@example.com.invalid> - 2026-07-30 19:17 -0400
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-31 09:23 +0200
                Re: Life Insurance (was Re: Tomato Plants) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:27 +0000
                Re: Life Insurance nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-31 09:57 +0200
                Re: Tomato Plants Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 20:13 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-28 07:32 +0200
                Re: Tomato Plants Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-27 19:10 +0100
                Re: Tomato Plants kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-27 09:33 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 12:43 -0400
                Re: Tomato Plants Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> - 2026-07-26 12:59 -0700
                Re: Tomato Plants Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-26 23:17 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-27 10:57 +0100
                Re: Tomato Plants Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 23:21 +0000
                Re: Tomato Plants liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-28 09:21 +0100
                Re: Tomato Plants athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-26 16:46 +0000
                Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-27 11:33 +0200
                Re: Retronym? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-27 10:35 +0000
                Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-28 21:42 +0200
                Re: Retronym? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-28 19:57 +0000
                Suing News Organizations "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 16:27 -0400
                Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-28 23:34 +0200
                Re: Retronym? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 19:28 -0400
                Re: Retronym? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-29 11:15 +1000
                Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-29 11:35 +0200
                Re: Retronym? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 09:49 -0400
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-20 23:01 +0000
                Re: Retronym? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-21 09:19 +1000
                Re: Retronym? "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 19:33 -0400
      Re: Retronym? "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 07:03 -0400
      Re: Retronym? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-19 15:56 +0200
        Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-19 21:54 +0200
          Re: Retronym? Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2026-07-19 19:46 -0400
            Re: Retronym? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-07-21 07:56 +0000
          Re: Retronym? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-20 17:15 +0200
            Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-21 11:28 +0200
              Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 01:33 +0000
                Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-22 23:12 +0200
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 23:04 +0000
                Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-23 10:56 +0200
                Re: Retronym? Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> - 2026-07-23 05:21 -0700
                Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-24 01:19 +0000
                Re: Retronym? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-24 18:03 -0400
  Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-19 04:58 +0000
    Re: Retronym? rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) - 2026-07-19 19:49 +0000
      Re: Retronym? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-19 23:07 +0200
      Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-19 23:49 +0000
  Re: Retronym? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 01:13 +0000
    Calendars "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 21:30 -0400
      Re: Calendars "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-27 02:20 +0000
        Re: Calendars Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-27 05:24 +0200
        Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 05:38 +0000
          Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-27 11:33 +0200
            Re: Calendars richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-27 10:37 +0000
          Re: Calendars Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-27 12:52 +0200
            Re: Calendars Someone Else <SueDominus@example.com.invalid> - 2026-07-27 21:39 -0400
            Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 23:29 +0000
              Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-28 10:29 +0200
                Re: Calendars "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 06:44 -0400
                Re: Calendars Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-28 20:35 +0200
                Re: Calendars richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-28 18:05 +0000
        Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-27 11:33 +0200
          Re: Calendars Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-27 20:36 +1000
            Re: Calendars kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-27 09:34 -0400
              Re: Calendars athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-27 14:05 +0000
            Re: Calendars Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-28 10:55 +1000
              Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-28 13:59 +0200
                Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:44 +0000
                Re: Calendars kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-28 19:12 -0400
                Prophecy "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 19:39 -0400
            Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 23:28 +0000
              Re: Calendars richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-28 18:12 +0000
                Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:46 +0000
            Re: Calendars "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-07-31 23:53 +0000
              Re: Calendars "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 20:05 -0400
                Re: Calendars Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-01 11:13 +1000
                Genealogy of Joseph "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 06:47 -0400
                Re: Genealogy of Joseph Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-01 21:08 +1000
                Re: Genealogy of Joseph prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2026-08-01 12:34 +0100
                Re: Genealogy of Joseph kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-08-01 10:56 -0400
                Re: Genealogy of Joseph "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-01 16:07 +0000
                Re: Genealogy of Joseph "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 12:26 -0400
                Re: Genealogy of Joseph "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-01 20:57 +0000
                Re: Calendars richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-01 13:08 +0000
                Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-02 08:31 +0000
              Re: Calendars Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-08-01 07:25 +0000
                Re: Calendars Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-08-01 07:31 +0000
              Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-02 08:30 +0000
                Re: Calendars Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-02 11:41 +0200
                Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-02 12:28 +0200
                Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-03 05:45 +0000
                Re: Calendars Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-03 15:30 +0200
                Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-03 21:21 +0200
                Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-02 11:45 +0200
                Re: Calendars Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> - 2026-08-02 12:41 -0700
                Re: Calendars "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2026-08-02 19:49 +0000
                Re: Calendars Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-02 21:59 +0200
                Re: Calendars "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-02 22:07 +0100
                Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-03 10:41 +0200
                Re: Calendars Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-02 22:03 +0200
                Re: Calendars kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-08-02 16:40 -0400
                Re: Calendars "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-02 22:09 +0100
                Re: Calendars nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-03 10:41 +0200
                Re: Calendars Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-03 05:47 +0000
                Re: Calendars Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-03 16:04 +1000
          Re: Calendars Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-27 12:56 +0200

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