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Re: contacts

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: contacts
Date 2026-07-14 14:07 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <1135msa.j14.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <1130ep0$2uvvp$1@dont-email.me> <nbianjFeuonU1@mid.individual.net> <1131147$34vjh$1@dont-email.me> <1133muv.9i4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <wIu*sHyLA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>

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Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> > AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > I have always used a card to transfer stuff to the tablet or to
> > > use as external storage (like my music collection for tablet
> > > listening - earphones of course as the speakers ain't so great...)
> > > so it has already been formatted and loaded beforehand. I'd try
> > > sticking in an unformatted card just to see what it would do but
> > > don't have any. My guess is just a failure warning. If you have an
> > > unformatted one sitting around give it a try on your new toys and
> > > let us know...
> > 
> >   Minor, but in this context  important, nit: There is no such thing as
> > "an unformatted card". An SD card can be formatted with the
> > wrong/undesired filesystem or the formatting might be partly broken,
> > etc., but it's not unformatted. I.e. when you buy one, it's already
> > formatted.
> 
> Not in the original sense of a floppy coming out of the factory without any
> magnetic data on the medium - 'formatting' meant creating the magnetic
> sector boundaries, checksums, etc something you had to do before you even
> thought about writing data into the sectors.

  True, with the addition that for (3.5") *diskettes*, you could later
buy them pre-formatted (with a FAT-filesystem).

> But 'unformatted' has become a synonym for 'not having valid partition(s)'. 
> That's what 'Format' in Windows will do - create a partition table and a
> partition with an empty filesystem on it.

  These days, it's hardly possible to buy a storage medium/device 'not
having valid partition(s)'. It might not have the partition(s) one
*wants* or/and not the filesystems (in those partitions) one *wants*,
but it *does* have a valid partition and a filesystem in that partition.

>					     If you still have a floppy it
> will also write the sector boundaries, but once done it creates the
> filesystem just like any other device.  The 'Format' tool (and the verb
> 'format') covers both operations, with modern media needing one but not the
> other.
> 
> So it's outdated nit really. The term encompasses more than it previously
> did.

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contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 18:33 +0200
  Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-09 18:02 +0100
    Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 20:08 +0200
      Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-10 11:26 +0100
        Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-10 12:49 +0200
        Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-10 15:30 +0200
  Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 19:26 +0200
    Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 19:30 +0200
      Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 20:10 +0200
        Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 22:21 +0200
          Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-10 12:50 +0200
            Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-10 15:32 +0200
        Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-11 08:50 +0100
          Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-11 12:25 +0200
            Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-12 09:59 +0200
          Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 19:31 -0400
            Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-14 17:33 +0100
              Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-14 13:25 -0400
                Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-14 17:01 -0400
      Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:18 +0200
        Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-10 13:38 +0000
          Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 16:49 +0200
            Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-10 18:32 +0100
              Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-10 18:05 +0000
              Re: contacts Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-07-10 19:12 +0100
                Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-11 18:37 +0100
              Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-12 11:58 +0200
                Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 19:36 -0400
                Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 19:44 -0400
    Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:16 +0200
  Re: contacts "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-09 22:17 +0200
    Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 22:22 +0200
      Re: contacts "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-10 11:12 +0200
        Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-10 11:33 +0200
          Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:22 +0200
            Re: contacts "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-10 17:53 +0200
      Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:20 +0200
        Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 00:03 -0400
          Re: contacts ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-12 07:42 +0000
            Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-12 09:44 +0100
              Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-12 13:49 +0200
                Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-12 16:18 +0000
                Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-12 22:11 +0200
                Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-12 21:31 +0000
                Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 21:05 -0400
                Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 01:52 +0000
                Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-13 02:26 -0400
                Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 16:50 +0000
                Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 20:04 +0000
                Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 21:17 +0000
                Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-13 17:00 +0100
                Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 17:00 +0000
                Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-13 18:10 +0100
                Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 17:48 +0000
                Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 19:57 +0000
                Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-14 12:45 +0100
                Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-14 14:07 +0000
                Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-14 15:28 +0100
                Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-14 15:45 +0000
                Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-14 16:06 +0200
            Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-12 12:04 +0200
          Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-12 09:53 +0100
          Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-12 12:01 +0200
      Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-10 16:10 +0000
        Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 00:03 -0400
  Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-11 23:53 -0400

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