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Re: Will there ever be a HTML tag to divide HTML documents?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: Will there ever be a HTML tag to divide HTML documents?
Followup-To comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets
Date 2019-06-05 21:07 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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JJ wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 23:40:31 -0700 (PDT), Jonas Thörnvall wrote:
>> Dealing with real big HTML blocks is frustrating in HTML, the only option
>> you got is to split the document with iframe and innerHTML.

Nonsense.

>> And then you suddenly must hang on the origin "parent" to reach the
>> functions you call, it add complexity when all you want to do is have
>> neat textblocks included "frames".
>> 
>> I find it somehow unreasonable to add unnecessary complexity to reach
>> local functions.
>> 
>> Is the HTML standard fix now, iframe was not the solution i was hoping
>> for.It may be good for other purposes but for dividing a text into
>> logical textblocks it is practically useless if you do not want to add
>> overhead.
>> 
>> I can see many people ask for a way to just divide a text into subblocks,
>> will it ever happen?
> 
> Probably. Such feature is useful to provide newspaper styled page.
> 
> But considering that most of current HTML elements are just dumb passive
> containers (where they can not change their contents without users'
> intervention), I doubt it'll change soon. At least until they introduce
> something like "smart HTML" - where HTML elements are more active in
> general.
> 
> But I think before that happens, they'll need to provide support for
> better text rendering so that text can nicely fill up non rectangular
> containers without getting clipped.

Whatever the *perceived* problem, I am almost certain that it is only that, 
caused by ignorance (at best).  There are

  overflow: auto;

  columns: 2;

and

  border: 1px solid black;
  border-radius: 10px;
  padding: 5px;

and there are the Flexible Box (Flexbox) and Grid CSS layouts.

<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/overflow>
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/columns>
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/border-radius>
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Flexible_Box_Layout>
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Grid_Layout>

Plain HTML and CSS are *off topic* here.
They are on topic in <news:comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html> and 
<news:comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets> instead.

See also the FAQ (sig).

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Re: Will there ever be a HTML tag to divide HTML documents? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-06-05 21:07 +0200

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