Re: Anyone else seen this.

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, uk.d-i-y
Subject	Re: Anyone else seen this.
Date	2026-07-05 10:28 +0100
Organization	A little, after lunch
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On 04/07/2026 23:19, jkn wrote:
>> And.. change the mostly useless power supply Capacitors!..
> 
> Is this actually true, specifically referring to Draytek routers? Or 
> just to Set Top Boxen (in which case I probably agree)
> 
No. And in fact mostly today capacitors are not as prone to failure as 
they once were.

There was a period where bad chemistry was taking out millions of them. 
They have all gone


> I have previously looked for reports of such problems with Draytek kit, 
> and found none. I also took a look inside my previous Draytek router 
> (when I was getting ADSL issues, see uk.d-i-y thread passim) and all the 
> caps looked good (visual only check, I agree)

The Draytek self-reboot is well documented. PSU degradation or firmware 
bit rot seems the most common cause

I have re-flashed the firmware and it has stayed up since.

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Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:21 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-03 16:37 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:10 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 16:45 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 18:52 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:17 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:16 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 22:29 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-04 00:33 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 07:45 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-04 12:39 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-03 17:43 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:09 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:46 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-07-03 23:14 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:20 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> - 2026-07-03 17:51 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:26 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-07-03 19:28 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:28 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-03 19:38 +0000
  Re: Anyone else seen this. John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2026-07-03 21:15 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 22:32 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2026-07-04 00:30 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 08:55 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2026-07-04 12:36 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-04 05:30 +0000
  Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 11:23 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-04 17:06 +0000
      Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-04 19:08 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-05 02:36 -0400
    Re: Anyone else seen this. tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 22:05 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 23:19 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:28 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 10:38 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:53 +0100
              Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 19:24 +0100
                Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:55 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 12:05 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 13:57 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2026-07-06 13:01 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:15 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-06 14:15 +0000
              Re: Anyone else seen this. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 20:00 +0200
                Re: Anyone else seen this. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-06 19:55 +0000
              Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 09:12 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 09:18 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 10:40 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:54 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2026-07-06 13:06 +0100
              Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:18 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 12:32 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 17:24 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-06 00:49 -0400
          Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 12:24 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 21:52 +0800
    Re: Anyone else seen this. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-04 23:34 -0400
      Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:50 +0100

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