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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.freeware, alt.os.linux.mint, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? |
| Date | 2026-07-01 13:20 +0100 |
| Organization | 255 software |
| Message-ID | <11230m8$16vs9$3@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <111tq6s$btst$1@dont-email.me> <111uauo$h505$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <111vi0f$3q9aa$1@news.usenet.ovh> <seU0S.4$kfzb.1@fx35.iad> <1122q54$1posb$1@dont-email.me> |
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On 2026/7/1 11:28:50, Daniel70 wrote: > On 1/07/2026 4:51 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2026-06-30, german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> wrote: [] >>> free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it >>> et do a another version of the software ! >>> may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is >>> 10000 peoples ! >> >> Compare "free as in speech" with "free as in beer". >> > To me, "free as in speech" is ME being able to say whatever I want .... > whereas with "free as in beer" that's someone wanting to get my > attention to SELL me something (maybe a brand of beer!!). > > Am I wrong?? In practice, yes. The two "free"s are usually brought up in the context of software; that which is "free as in speech", usually applied to open source, means you are free to do whatever you want with it, including changing all sorts of settings; it usually doesn't cost anything either, though sometimes (e. g. some Linux distributions, AIUI) there is a minor charge for the convenience; the point usually being made when the two "free"s are brought up is that it's not cost that is the main freedom being considered. Free as in beer would be software that's free to download and use, but over which you may have little choice about how it works (including settings), or even information on how it works - it usually _isn't_ source-code available, for example. A _good_ (IMO) example of free-as-in-beer software is IrfanView (for private use - though Irfan does accept donations); there are plenty of bad examples, such as those that include malware or at least ad.s and information-grathering (I think many "app"s, and browser add-ons, are such). I'll leave others to give examples of good (and bad - there must be some!) free-as-in-speech softwares. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Never be led astray onto the path of virtue.
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What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-06-29 05:59 -0700
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:32 +0000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-06-29 12:21 -0700
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2026-06-30 09:11 +0000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-06-30 04:40 -0700
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2026-06-30 18:23 +0000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-06-30 04:39 -0700
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 01:44 +0800
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 06:51 +0200
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 16:04 +0800
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 17:13 +0800
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-07-01 17:49 +1000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 18:50 +0800
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-30 20:05 +1000
Re: What does "libre" ... "caca" <-- laughing? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 18:19 +0800
Re: What does "libre" ... "caca" <-- laughing? german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 12:55 +0200
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-30 18:51 +0000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-01 20:28 +1000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-01 13:20 +0100
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 22:11 +1000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:07 +0000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-03 20:46 +1000
Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 03:19 +0000
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