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Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license?

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On 26/06/30 02:11 AM, p-0 0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
> On 29/06/2026 19:21, Mike Easter wrote:
>> p-0 0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>>> they come to tell us how much better they are than us scummy users of
>>> 'proprietary' software,
>>
>> Well, 'they' shouldn't do that.
>>
>> There is good and bad proprietary and there is good and bad open and
>> there are advantages and disadvantages to dev/ing software 'both'
>> different ways.
>>
>> One complicating feature of open is the *variety* of copyleft
>> licensing, of which *you* have much better insight than the rest of
>> us, because you have chosen to involve yourself in its understanding
>> more than most.
>>
>> It IS true that linux fans LUV open source and tend to 'follow' the
>> old arguments found in ES Raymond's '99 Cathedral/Bazaar book and
>> previously.
>>
>> There's plenty of room for development in both spheres.
> 
> Look Mike, what I really care about is the sheer cost to the world of
> this form of software licensing.
> 
> It's driven by this idea that if you give something away for free you
> should get something back. That you can put obligations into the license
> that stops big business [in particular] from making money out of it
> unless they 'give something back'. Pinky anti corporate nonsense. Has
> that worked, maybe, a bit, certainly not completely, and what is the
> result. See below for the benefits of permissive licensing. It has
> worked however disproportionately against the little people.
> 
> Permissive licenses let everybody make money out of the software.
> 
> I've been arguing for years that just giving it away benefits everybody
> and hurts no one.
> 
> More businesses, more jobs, more wealth, more products, cheaper
> products, better products, products that help people.
> 
> The cumulative effect of that on direct wealth creation and the trickle
> down would have been enormous. Is enormous. In fact you can see how the
> world has changed since the balance of copyleft to permissive licensing
> has moved in favor of permissive in recent years.
> 
> You don't need to be an economist to get this, it's a back of a fag
> packet calc.
"The gift that keeps on giving..." indeed.

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What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-06-29 05:59 -0700
  Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:32 +0000
    Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-06-29 12:21 -0700
      Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2026-06-30 09:11 +0000
        Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-06-30 04:40 -0700
          Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2026-06-30 18:23 +0000
    Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-06-30 04:39 -0700
  Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 01:44 +0800
    Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 06:51 +0200
      Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 16:04 +0800
        Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 17:13 +0800
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