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| From | "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | news.groups |
| Subject | Re: List of active (used) groups |
| Date | 2026-06-20 15:00 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <11169v6$3t82$3@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <1115k9u$fnd1$1@solani.org> |
Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote: >Some time ago we created a getting started guide for setting up >newsgroup access. >https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet >I would like to extend that with a list of active groups, e.g. groups >that received new posts in the last year etc. >Is there an easy way for server operators to create such statistics? If I tell you something logical, you will put your fingers in your ears and ignore it as you've been doing for years. Such a list might be informative for server utilization but SHOULD NOT be given as guidance to new users. Among the most active groups will be *.politics groups. DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT encourage an inexperienced Usenet user who has no idea what a flame war that lasts indefinitely looks like. They will scream in terror and never read Usenet again. Once again, this is part of your ongoing scheme to purge Usenet of groups still listed in a server's active and newsgroups files that you think through useless statistical analysis like this. Instead, new users should be told the truth about Usenet, that users tend to subscribe to groups based on topics they are interested in regardless of recent activity and that, by posting on topic, it is possible to start a discussion. They should be told to have patience as a followup may not be posted for weeks. An inactive newsgroup is not useless for discussion, You don't know what you don't know. I have argued that, failing to actually read articles in a group, that a group you might list as active is literally not useful for discussion purposes. It's full of articles reposted from the Web. It's full of crossposts. In truth, an active newsgroup is one in which articles being posted have not been crossposted and were actually written by the user, and attract discussion in followup. You aren't unaware of any of this. You simply choose to ignore how discussions work on Usenet. You ignore anything and everything that contradicts the assumptions you already made.
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List of active (used) groups Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-20 10:51 +0200
Re: List of active (used) groups Thomas Hochstein <thh@thh.name> - 2026-06-20 11:46 +0200
Re: List of active (used) groups "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-20 15:00 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups pschleck@panix.com (Paul W. Schleck) - 2026-06-23 12:31 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> - 2026-06-23 18:28 -0500
Re: List of active (used) groups pschleck@panix.com (Paul W. Schleck) - 2026-06-24 03:46 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> - 2026-06-25 17:56 -0500
Re: List of active (used) groups gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-20 17:22 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-20 17:31 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-20 21:18 +0200
Re: List of active (used) groups Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-20 21:28 +0200
Re: List of active (used) groups gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-21 06:59 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> - 2026-06-22 10:16 -0500
Re: List of active (used) groups gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-22 17:50 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-22 18:23 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups pschleck@panix.com (Paul W. Schleck) - 2026-06-23 13:02 +0000
Re: List of active (used) groups Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-23 15:12 +0200
Re: List of active (used) groups Thomas Hochstein <thh@thh.name> - 2026-07-05 12:23 +0200
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