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Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys?

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Nuno Silva wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

> On 2026-06-13, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
>
>> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> posted:
>>
>>> Now that Microsoft seems to be dialling back its AI hysteria at least
>>> in the consumer market, I wonder if it will stop “encouraging” PC
>>> vendors to include the “Copilot” key on their keyboards. Is this still
>>> happening?
>>> 
>>> Because I’m imagining that, 10 or 20 years from now, we’ll be looking
>>> back at this brief time when PC keyboards had this extra key that
>>> never really did anything useful, and stories will be told about why
>>> it was there ...
>>
>> Maybe we can just remap the key to the 'context menu' key that nobody ever 
>> uses. It is, after all, the same key but with a different picture on the 
>> top (and it generates a F23 keycode instead of ctrl-shift-f10
>> keychord)
>
> Ah yes, I call it the Compose key :-)
>
> (I still stand by an assessment that keyboards have too few modifiers,
> one for the window manager, one key for compose, and you may be already
> out of keys even before you consider a key to switch keymaps.
>
> Non-Emacs users probably have a different assessment.)

Fluxbox supports keystroke chords (e.g. Ctrl-x Ctrl-c) to initiate stuff.
I don't use chords, but with Shift, Ctrl Left/Right, Alt, and the
friggin' Microsoft Windows key, plenty of knuckle-busting key
combinations.

I've seen Emacs users whose hands look like the hands of an aged
roofer :-).

>> And in 15 years, Microsoft will probably re-re-map it to something else nobody
>> uses. What will it be? The anticipation is killing me; I can hardly wait! ;-)
>
> It's time keyboard manufacturers just give Microsoft the finger. This is
> silly, keyboards continuing to do Microsoft product placement, instead
> of using generic logos or labels.

Well, the generic keyboards I see label the key with "Win" or
"Cmd".

-- 
<Knghtbrd> you know, Linux needs a platform game starring Tux
<Knghtbrd> kinda Super Marioish, but with Tux and things like little cyber
           bugs and borgs and that sort of thing ...
<Knghtbrd> And you have to jump past billgatus and hit the key to drop him
           into the lava and then you see some guy that looks like a RMS
           or someone say "Thank you for rescuing me Tux, but Linus
           Torvalds is in another castle!"

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Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 06:52 +0000
  Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:59 +0000
    Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2026-06-13 14:14 +0000
      Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:43 +0000
    Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-14 09:51 +0100
      Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-06-15 06:46 -0400
  Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 20:48 +0000
    Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-13 20:41 -0700
      Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:43 +0000
        Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 00:22 +0000
        Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Roman Belenov <no@spam.please> - 2026-06-20 09:11 +0300
          Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 06:45 +0000
            Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Roman Belenov <no@spam.please> - 2026-06-21 12:50 +0300
          They're giving us Copilot keys, but we want Space Cadets? (was: Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-20 09:31 +0100
      Re: Do Keyboards Still Include “Copilot” Keys? Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-06-14 10:39 +0000

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