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Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design

From Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design
Date 2026-06-09 14:59 -0600
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Paul wrote:
>> When it drops, Windows just sends everything out over
>> your normal connection-instantly exposing your real IP mid-session.
> 
> It's not even listed as a "Chromium" browser.
> 
>   https://github.com/nerdyslacker/desktop-web-browsers
> 
>      Aloha Browser   WebKit,Blink    Windows    Fast, free, full-featured browser
> 
> It would take quite a while to review that browser list,
> and start by weeding out the ones that are no longer
> in development.
> 
> [Paul looks at his big-bucket-of-browsers, discovering
>  the bucket is entirely empty.]
> 
> I don't think I even "want" to review browsers.
> 
> This would be like reviewing six different colors
> of Docker pants :-) "Yeah, it stole my identity"
> "Yeah, it has telemetry and reports every URL"
> "Yeah, is that DOM folder big or what?"
> That's hard work.
> 
> Speaking of Scumbaggery, Tomshardware has switched to the Deceptron FutureInc Web Format.
> Oh, well. We were always told, control would only be taken away from Toms, if they
> weren't making enough money for FutureInc. By not having scroll bars where you expect them,
> and having scroll bars in places you don't need them, all your interface requirements
> are met... as an advertiser. I'm using my PgDn and PgUp keys, to navigate items,
> and that is a lot of fun. A lot. Of fun. I hope they don't like a lot of telemetry
> that notes "pressed PgDn key 1000 times in 4 seconds". I had to turn off SVG rendering
> on the browser I use for that, just to cut down on the sheer volume of crud on the page.
> 
> Yes, the Internet is alive and well, but is an acquired taste.
> 
> I had a Google AI summary, use a slop-page prepared by an AI, as
> one of its "authoritative sources". My day is complete. You can't
> get quality like this at the public library.


Hi Paul,

That's interesting. Very interesting. Maybe it's its own browser engine,
especially given the "vpn" part is nothing like any browser VPN anywhere.

For just one example, if you go on a system-wide VPN, the Aloha VPN won't
respect that system-wide VPN by punishing it with expensive metric changes.

I do very much appreciate that you looked up this strange Aloha thing.
 a. It's not really a chromium browser, after all, and,
 b. It's almost impossible to find a "real" reliable review for it.

Thanks for bringing up that detail, where if the Aloha situation is any
indication, basically "all" browser reviews are nothing more than shills.

BTW, even my browser review turned out to be wrong in a critical area.

I just ran some tests that I should have run prior to my recent posts.

In version 4.19.0.0, the Aloha browser loses the VPN randomly EVEN IF
the user keeps the mouse focus on the browser window at all times!

So, in reality, while the Aloha bastardized VPN is blazingly fast compared
to other VPNs I've tested (e.g., when I tested the Browsec VPN extension in
Brave), it's still worthless in the free version because it drops on you.

No matter what you do, the free VPN promise is a mere sadistic gotcha.
If you pay for the VPN, I'm sure it's really good. 

But the promise of the "trialware" VPN is so bad that it's shocking that
the developers based in Cypress should be ashamed at themselves for it.

Getting back to whether it's Chromium or "something else" and the reviews
of the browsers, I wish we could find a single review that isn't a shill.
-- 
Knowledge is one thing... experience is something else.

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PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-09 09:59 +0000
  Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-09 16:43 -0500
    Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-09 23:32 -0700
      Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-08 21:38 -0600
        Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-06-09 08:09 +0100
          Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-09 13:05 +0100
            Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-09 13:03 -0600
          Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-09 13:19 -0600
            Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-09 16:29 -0400
              Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-09 14:59 -0600

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