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Re: Can’t Set File Permissions

From Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Can’t Set File Permissions
Date 2026-06-07 19:57 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 07/06/2026 13:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-07 13:46, Alan Peeling wrote:
>> On 05/06/2026 12:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-06-04 22:52, Alan Peeling wrote:
>>>> On 04/06/2026 07:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> I am able to save most files to a computer, by using MTP protocol 
>>>>> in Linux. Sometimes I had success by using an FTP server on the phone.
>>>>
>>>> Are you able to save /Android/data/, /sdcard/Android, and most 
>>>> subdirectories of /sdcard/Android?
>>>>
>>>
>>> With FTP I have /Android/data/. I don't have an /sdcard/ directory on 
>>> this phone.
>>>
>>> With mtpfs I also have "/Android/data/", but I had to run the copy 
>>> several times till no errors were reported.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a thread here where we commented about it.
>>>
>>> Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to 
>>> connect to each other & Windows?
>>>
>>> From: Herbert Kleebauer <...>
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:31:44 +0200
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But the copies I made are dated July.
>>>
>>> /2025-07-18-ftp                                             │ 23331M
>>> /2025-07-18-mtpfs                                           │ 56257M
>>> /2025-07-18-test                                            │ 56170M
>>>
>>> So the latest directory was made with a method that accessed more 
>>> files. I don't remember what method I used :-?
>>>
>>> I will have to run tests again. I have a note that says to use FTP, 
>>> but must be a different than the one used in the first directory.
>>>
>>>
>>> My notes on the ftp method say:
>>>
>>> +++------------
>>> Use Cx File Explorer on phone to activate ftp. The app can be 
>>> backgrounded, swipe from the bottom.
>>>
>>> Copy over the files using mc to temporary directory. No, use FileZilla
>>>
>>> Finally, use rsync to save space.
>>> ------------++-
>>>
>>>
>>> Sigh, incomplete notes.
>>>
>>>
>> I found the thread ‘How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB 
>> servers to connect to each other & Windows?’ on https:// 
>> newsgrouper.org/ comp.mobile.android , thanks for the pointers. It is 
>> a killer thread, it took me hours to read, and it's stuffed with the 
>> sort of flames that make one embarrassed to be human.
> 
> I tried to point you to the exact post where we discussed backups :-)
> 
>> It did contain some gems, for example I didn't know that Windows File 
>> Explorer could be used as an FTP client. The app Carlos remembered 
>> seems to be WebDAV FS, which lets the phone appear as a drive in File 
>> Explorer. That seemed like useful functionality so I installed it. I 
>> know File Explorer already has something similar but I've found it to 
>> be flaky and confusing; I can never tell whether I'm working in the 
>> phone or in a copy of it on my C: drive. I wasn't optimistic that 
>> WebDAV FS would solve the problem of inaccessible Android folders. I 
>> was right not to be optimistic, when I backed up through it I 
>> recovered fewer files than GoodSync Server fetched, so in that respect 
>> it's a turkey. There was a tantalising post suggesting that the 
>> Android FTP server primitive ftpd, not in a sanitised version 
>> available though Play Store, but in a more resourceful form that comes 
>> from F-Droid, could access off-limits Android folders. I tried it and 
>> it doesn’t work.
>>
>> Perhaps the way to back up my phone is to use Samsung Smart Switch 
>> after major structural changes to its software and GoodSync Server for 
>> day-to- day maintenance.
>>
>> Whilst I was exploring I came across the news that, in a few weeks, 
>> Google plans to block Android apps that it has not approved in a 
>> bureaucratic and money consuming process. Everyone else may already 
>> know about this but I didn’t. There is a site at https:// 
>> keepandroidopen.org/   giving details and showing links that can be 
>> used for asking regulatory bodies to oppose this nastiness.
> 
> 
> One of these days I'm going to do a backup of my phone, and I'll post in 
> this thread what I find.
> 
> I think it is the FTP server in Cx File Explorer in Android and 
> Filezilla on the computer (Linux in my case)
> 
> (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details? 
> id=com.cxinventor.file.explorer)
> 
> 
> The thing is, only two things are of interest to me in the backup: 
> photos/videos, and WhatsApp. The rest, I can just reinstall. Ok, SMSs too.
> 
> 

> The thing is, only two things are of interest to me in the backup: photos/videos, and WhatsApp. The rest, I can just reinstall. Ok, SMSs too. 

I'd like to have a fairly painless means of recovering from a factory 
reset, should the need arise.

-- 
Alan in the UK

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Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-02 14:59 +0100
  Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-02 09:30 -0600
    Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-02 16:50 +0100
      Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-02 18:33 -0600
        Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 12:59 +0100
          Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-03 08:37 -0600
            Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-03 23:04 +0100
              Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-03 17:37 -0600
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-04 22:02 +0100
              Re: Can’t Set File Permissions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:20 +0200
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-04 21:52 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-05 13:33 +0200
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-05 07:10 -0600
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-05 16:07 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-05 10:41 -0600
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-05 23:06 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-05 23:22 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-05 19:12 -0600
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-06 08:40 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-06-05 16:42 +0000
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-05 10:54 -0600
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-07 12:46 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:32 +0200
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-07 09:46 -0600
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:09 +0200
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-07 19:57 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:09 +0200
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-08 00:45 +0100
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-07 23:11 -0600
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:47 +0200
                Re: Can?t Set File Permissions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-06-21 14:33 +0000
                Doing a backup [Was: Can’t Set File Permissions] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 13:11 +0200
                Re: Doing a backup Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-08 10:51 -0600
                Re: Doing a backup "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:19 +0200
                Re: Doing a backup Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-08 20:40 -0600
                Re: Doing a backup "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 20:04 +0200
                Re: Doing a backup Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-09 12:41 -0600
                Re: Doing a backup "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 22:26 +0200
                Re: Doing a backup Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-06-09 21:57 +0100
                Re: Doing a backup [Was: Can’t Set File Permissions] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:33 +0200
                Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-07 09:27 -0600
                Re: Can?t Set File Permissions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-06-21 14:16 +0000
                Re: Can?t Set File Permissions "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 19:01 +0200
                Re: Can?t Set File Permissions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-06-22 14:44 +0000
  Re: Can’t Set File Permissions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:06 +0200
    Re: Can’t Set File Permissions Alan Peeling <Alan@invalid.co.uk> - 2026-06-02 20:01 +0100

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