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Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers

From Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design, sci.physics
Subject Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers
Date 2026-04-21 05:35 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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>john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
>>On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 03:35:20 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>wrote:
>
>>On 21/04/2026 12:55 am, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:07:05 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From:
>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/04/260417085404.htm
>>>>> Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers
>>>>> Your тАЬmagicтА? sponge might be quietly adding trillions of microplastics to the planet.
>>>>> Date:
>>>>> April 18, 2026
>>>>> Source:
>>>>> American Chemical Society
>>>>> Summary:
>>>>> That тАЬmagicтА? sponge under your sink may be hiding an environmental downside. While melamine sponges are famous for
>>>>> effortlessly scrubbing away stubborn stains, they slowly break down as you use them shedding tiny plastic fibers that wash into
>>>>> water systems. Researchers estimate that globally, these sponges could release over a trillion microplastic fibers every month,
>>>>> potentially entering the food chain and affecting wildlife.
>>>>
>>>> More to the point, they're added to the immediate environment
>>>> without planetary dilution or dispersal . . . .where you live,
>>>> eat and breath.
>>>>
>>>> As do those from all domestic sources . . .
>>> 
>>> You are allowed to use natural sponges or cotton rags for washing up.
>>
>>They don't work all that well, but we are used to the side-effects.
>>
>>> And to dress in all natural fabrics.
>>
>>It is an expensive luxury.
>>
>>> And cook over a wood or dung fire.
>>
>>They are remarkably difficult to control. Electric ovens do offer stable 
>>and predictable temperatures, and a microwave oven heats food rapidly 
>>and uniformly, if that's what you want.
>>
>>Gas cookers have a nasty habit of leaving a layer of soot on every 
>>surface in the kitchen, and that probably includes your lungs.
>
>I never noticed any soot or gunk from our natural-gas range. A good
>non-smoking oil is recommended for frying, pecan or sesame. Cheap oils
>like corn or canola smoke.
>
>We have fan vents over the range too.

I stopped using gas decennia ago.
An other advantage is that if gas or electric supply is cut I can use my solar panels, 250 Ah lipo battery pack, and 2 kW pure sinewave battery to mains converter..
Tested on the microwave and other stuff, works perfectly, keeps the fridge running too.
And satellite TV!
Fiber will be dead..

Amazing, 10 minutes microwave can do a lot! Not much power used!
Water cooker, few minutes for a liter boiling water.
You do not even have to skip your coffee...


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Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-18 17:12 +0000
  Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-18 12:32 -0700
    Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-19 06:32 +0000
      Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-19 07:45 -0700
        Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-20 03:49 +1000
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-04-19 20:16 +0200
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-04-19 12:03 -0700
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2026-04-19 12:47 -0700
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:40 -0700
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 05:08 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 20:14 -0700
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-19 22:00 -0700
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-04-20 09:26 +0200
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:42 -0700
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:37 -0700
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-20 14:54 -0400
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-20 18:00 -0400
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 05:57 +0000
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 18:40 +1000
      Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-19 15:12 -0400
        Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-19 12:50 -0700
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-19 21:40 -0700
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 07:10 -0700
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 03:17 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:29 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 04:21 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 12:01 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 05:50 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 06:45 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 17:29 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:57 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-22 16:24 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 10:25 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 16:17 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-22 08:12 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 18:53 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-22 12:56 +0100
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 01:13 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-04-24 19:13 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-25 07:29 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-27 12:54 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-28 06:44 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-28 10:38 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-28 21:57 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-05-03 15:46 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-05-04 02:34 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-21 01:05 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 06:57 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-21 10:13 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:29 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-22 12:56 +0100
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 07:41 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 02:04 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-22 09:50 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 10:21 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-22 15:31 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 16:50 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 16:31 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 16:23 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 01:52 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 09:38 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 16:51 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 08:24 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-24 03:59 +1000
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-20 06:10 +0000
    Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-20 10:03 -0400
      Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 07:18 -0700
        Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-28 08:25 -0400
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-28 07:01 -0700
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-29 03:42 +1000
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-28 12:51 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-29 14:58 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-29 08:25 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-30 01:44 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-29 09:45 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-30 23:12 +1000
  Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-04-19 11:04 +0200
  Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-20 10:07 -0400
    Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 07:55 -0700
      Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 03:35 +1000
        Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 12:07 -0700
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 05:35 +0000
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 07:03 -0700
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 17:19 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:42 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:55 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 08:04 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-23 06:22 +0000
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 21:35 +1000
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 07:12 -0700
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 17:11 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:52 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:21 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 10:13 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-23 06:49 +0000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 11:07 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 17:08 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 11:14 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-04-23 21:15 +0200
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 12:26 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-24 05:18 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 12:30 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 02:33 +1000
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-22 12:46 -0400
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers KevinJ93 <kevin_es@whitedigs.com> - 2026-04-21 11:06 -0700
                IRe: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 17:08 -0700
                Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-22 12:56 +0100
              Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 02:22 +1000
      Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-22 08:11 -0400
        Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 10:18 -0700
          Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 17:17 +1000
            Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 11:23 -0700

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