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| From | Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math, comp.lang.prolog, comp.software-eng |
| Subject | Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much |
| Date | 2026-01-13 10:46 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <10k50ph$30fch$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 12/01/2026 16:43, olcott wrote:
> On 1/12/2026 4:51 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 11/01/2026 16:23, olcott wrote:
>>> On 1/11/2026 4:22 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2026 17:47, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 1/10/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/01/2026 17:52, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/9/2026 3:59 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2026 16:22, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/8/2026 4:22 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 07/01/2026 13:54, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/7/2026 5:49 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/01/2026 06:44, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All deciders essentially: Transform finite string
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inputs by finite string transformation rules into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {Accept, Reject} values.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The counter-example input to requires more than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be derived from finite string transformation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rules applied to this specific input thus the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halting Problem requires too much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In a sense the halting problem asks too much: the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>>> proven to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be unsolvable. In another sense it asks too little: usually
>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> know whether a method halts on every input, not just one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Although the halting problem is unsolvable, there are
>>>>>>>>>>>> partial solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the halting problem. In particular, every counter-example
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> full solution is correctly solved by some partial deciders.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *if undecidability is correct then truth itself is broken*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Depends on whether the word "truth" is interpeted in the standard
>>>>>>>>>> sense or in Olcott's sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Undecidability is misconception. Self-contradictory
>>>>>>>>> expressions are correctly rejected as semantically
>>>>>>>>> incoherent thus form no undecidability or incompleteness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The misconception is yours. No expression in the language of the
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> order group theory is self-contradictory. But the first order goupr
>>>>>>>> theory is incomplete: it is impossible to prove that AB = BA is
>>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>> for every A and every B but it is also impossible to prove that
>>>>>>>> AB = BA
>>>>>>>> is false for some A and some B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All deciders essentially: Transform finite string
>>>>>>> inputs by finite string transformation rules into
>>>>>>> {Accept, Reject} values.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When a required result cannot be derived by applying
>>>>>>> finite string transformation rules to actual finite
>>>>>>> string inputs, then the required result exceeds the
>>>>>>> scope of computation and must be rejected as an
>>>>>>> incorrect requirement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, that does not follow. If a required result cannot be derived by
>>>>>> appying a finite string transformation then the it it is
>>>>>> uncomputable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. Outside the scope of computation. Requiring anything
>>>>> outside the scope of computation is an incorrect requirement.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, it one can prove that the required result is not
>>>>>> computable
>>>>>> then that helps to avoid wasting effort to try the impossible. The
>>>>>> situation is worse if it is not known that the required result is not
>>>>>> computable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That something is not computable does not mean that there is anyting
>>>>>> "incorrect" in the requirement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes it certainly does. Requiring the impossible is always an error.
>>>>
>>>> It is a perfectly valid question to ask whther a particular reuqirement
>>>> is satisfiable.
>>>
>>> Any yes/no question lacking a correct yes/no answer
>>> is an incorrect question that must be rejected on
>>> that basis.
>>
>> Irrelevant. The question whether a particular requirement is satisfiable
>> does have an answer that is either "yes" or "no". In some ases it is
>> not known whether it is "yes" or "no" and there may be no known way to
>> find out be even then either "yes" or "no" is the correct answer.
>
> Now that I finally have the standard terminology:
> Proof-theoretic semantics has always been the correct
> formal system to handle decision problems.
>
> When it is asked a yes/no question lacking a correct
> yes/no answer it correctly determines non-well-founded.
> I have been correct all along and merely lacked the
> standard terminology.
Irrelevant, as already noted above.
--
Mikko
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Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-20 12:35 -0600
Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-01-21 11:03 +0200
Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-21 09:22 -0600
Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-01-22 10:21 +0200
Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 10:40 -0600
Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-01-23 11:13 +0200
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Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 08:17 -0600
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Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-14 13:19 -0600
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Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-14 13:35 -0600
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Re: The Halting Problem asks for too much Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-01-16 11:21 +0200
Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 17:19 -0600
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Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 19:03 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-10 21:03 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 20:20 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-10 21:33 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 21:18 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-10 22:30 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 19:05 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-10 21:03 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 20:09 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-10 21:33 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability polcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 20:52 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-10 22:28 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 21:16 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-10 22:28 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 21:34 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-11 06:31 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 08:03 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-01-11 14:39 +0000
Re: Computation and Undecidability Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2026-01-11 12:52 -0500
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 12:12 -0600
Re: Computation and Undecidability olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 15:50 -0600
Haskell Curry Foundations of Mathematical Logic sense of true in the system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:47 -0600
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