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Write a book about the glorious 1960s (Re: Don't worry, be happy: Take your time)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Write a book about the glorious 1960s (Re: Don't worry, be happy: Take your time)
Date 2025-12-04 22:40 +0100
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Hi,

Philosophy is a mandatory and highly important
subject in the French education system, studied
in the final year of high school (Terminale) and
as part of the Baccalauréat exams.

France has strong philosophy education but weak
interdisciplinary bridges, especially compared
to places like the US, UK, or Germany where
“logic” spans departments.

- Philosophers may focus on conceptual foundations,
argumentation, epistemology.
- Mathematicians/logicians focus on formal systems,
proof theory, model theory.
- Computer scientists focus on algorithms, computation,
complexity, type theory.

But see the positive side. You could write
a book about the glorious 1960s, that saw
the Curry-Howard theorem comming.

- The 1960s counterculture (“hippies”) were
drawn to new ways of thinking: systems, feedback loops, 
interconnectedness — all ideas central to cybernetics.

- Netherlands-based logicians were quietly
inventing AUTOMATH and type theory. probably
visiting a coffee shop from time to time.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Don't worry, be happy: Take your time.
> Maybe the matter rings a bell in 1, 2
> or 5 years. Who knows?
> 
> Or even better, in 3, 6 or 12 months.
> Maybe France has somewhere a library
> with a book about Type Theory?
> 
> Or if all else fails try knocking on
> the doors of INRIA, a friendly student
> might appear, and explain the
> 
> matter face 2 face, in a few minutes.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>
>> "considered consequence". Ha Ha, why this
>> formulation? I voluntarily used the Curry-
>> Howard theorem, when I developed my Prolog
>>
>> code. I didn't invent anything. And its not
>> a smart system. Please never use the word
>> "smart" in software engineering, thats not
>>
>> professional. In particular the Implication
>> Introduction rule has been documented around
>> the world a 100x times: Just have a look:
>>
>> Intuitionistic implicational natural deduction
>>
>> G, A |- B
>> ------------ (->I)
>> G |- A -> B
>>
>> Lambda calculus type assignment rules
>>
>> G, x:A |- t:B
>> ----------------------- (->I)
>> G |- (λx:A.t) : A -> B
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry%E2%80%93Howard_correspondence#Intuitionistic_natural_deduction_and_typed_lambda_calculus 
>>
>>
>> Also refering to the above is probably more
>> useful, than referning to the paper. Since
>> it gives a summary of propositional
>>
>> MINIMAL LOGIC in Curry-Howard simple types.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Instead presenting a clown world like here:
>>>
>>> - The smart system for printing labels and reference
>>> lines in Fitch proofs has been invented by B., a Prolog
>>> expert who usually dislikes seeing his name quoted.
>>> https://www.vidal-rosset.net/2025-11-17-swi-tinker-for-swi-prolog-provers.html 
>>>
>>>
>>> You could simply state that the Fitch renderer
>>> is derived from Curry-Howard isomorphism proof
>>> terms. This is pretty much folk knowledge in logic
>>>
>>> circles, and wasnt invented by me. I was only
>>> the messenger for things that every Logician should
>>> know, already at least for 60 years, the original
>>>
>>> THE FORMULAE-AS-TYPES NOTION OF CONSTRUCTION
>>> W. A. Howard - University of Chicago
>>> https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Howard80.pdf
>>>
>>> Curry-Howard paper already circulated in 1969.
>>> That was around the same time when Automath
>>> ("automating mathematics") was devised by Nicolaas
>>>
>>> Govert de Bruijn, for expressing complete mathematical
>>> theories in such a way that an included automated
>>> proof checker can verify their correctness.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>
>>
> 

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