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War between Scryer Prolog and Ciao Prolog [9:0 Triska vs Hermenegildo] (Was: Who will win the new Prolog race? SWI or Scryer?)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject War between Scryer Prolog and Ciao Prolog [9:0 Triska vs Hermenegildo] (Was: Who will win the new Prolog race? SWI or Scryer?)
Date 2025-11-19 12:49 +0100
Message-ID <10fkas9$asq5$1@solani.org> (permalink)
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Hi,

This wasn't clear to me. That there is a
veritable war going on between Scryer Prolog
and Ciao Prolog. One protagonist

being Markus Triska, famous by the "Power
of Prolog", and the other protagonist Manuel
V. Hermenegildo somehow backed by the

Prolog education group (PEG) and SWI ? So who
will win the war, and exercise world domaninance
in constraint logic programming, based

on bogus notions such as "pure Prolog", which
are inherently inconsistent? The war is
mainly fought over teaching materials distributed,

less over tangible systems and applications.
Currently I would say the clear winner is
Markus Triska with 9 adoptions:

- As of 2018, Norbert Zeh
- As of 2018, Andrej Bauer
- As of 2018, José A. Alonso Jiménez
- As of 2019, Adam Dingle
- As of 2019, Dylan Schwesinger
- As of 2020, Andrea Schwertner Charão
- As of 2020, Alejandro Guerra Hernández
- As of 2021, Ilkka Kokkarinen
- As of 2025, Wang-Zhou Dai
https://github.com/triska/the-power-of-prolog

So it currently stands at 9:0 for Triska
vs Hermenegildo.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Who will win the new Prolog race?
> SWI or Scryer? Is it enough that SWI-Prolog
> has teamed up with Ciao Prolog?
> 
> What about resources that really can
> code a Prolog systems. SWI-Prolog is
> now doomed to have professional moron
> 
> Julio Di Egidio on board. Not sure whether
> he will ever become a heavy committer to
> SWI-Prolog source. But who knows, we should
> 
> also give Julio Di Egidio a chance. My
> gut feeling at the moment:
> 
> - SWI-Prolog:
>    Pull Requests 10 Open / 560 Closed
> 
> - Scryer Prolog:
>    Pull Requests 40 Open / 751 Closed
> 
> In the past I would measure active committers.
> But the new "liveness" indicator of a Prolog
> system could be indeed Pull Requests.
> 
> So who will win?
> 
> P.S.: Data sources:
> 
> https://github.com/mthom/scryer-prolog/pulls
> 
> https://github.com/SWI-Prolog/swipl-devel/pulls
> 

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