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Sleepy Joe SWI-Prolog still waiting for a PR (Was: Prolog can keep up with the AI Boom [Forget about CLAM])

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Sleepy Joe SWI-Prolog still waiting for a PR (Was: Prolog can keep up with the AI Boom [Forget about CLAM])
Date 2025-11-12 01:26 +0100
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Hi,

How it started:
===============

Sleepy Joe SWI-Prolog still waiting for a PR,
that include/3, this predicate:

https://www.swi-prolog.org/pldoc/man?predicate=include/3

Can ahead of time compile lambda expressions
from library(yall). This does not yet work.

And anything else will also not work, especially
things where a meta predicate declaration is missing.

How its going:
===============

After I posted arrow functions ahead of time
compilation, for Doglog Player, which is

much simpler than the LogNonsenseTalk nonsense
of library(yall). There was first silence.

Now they are a little nervous:

Yall lambdas in asserted clauses
https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/yall-lambdas-in-asserted-clauses/9374

Advice:
=======

Why not tap into Boris the Loris and the Nazi Retard Julio?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I am still convinced Prolog can keep up with the AI Boom.
> Nothing listed in the Prolog FAQ is really useful to
> keep up with the AI Boom. Its nice historical footnote.
> 
> I don't think anything CLAM , i.e. constraint logic
> abstract machine, will hit the spot of the AI Boom.
> Prove me wrong if you can. Autodiff with CLAM, holy
> 
> cow what a nonsense...
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> BTW: I have red taped www.jekejeke.ch on
>> Wayback Machine . Red Taping is a legal
>> process which took a few steps, like E-mail
>>
>> verification and DNS verifcation, I had to provide the
>> whole history that I owned www.jekejeke.ch, and it
>> is not temporary , its irreversible, since I do not
>>
>> intend to remove the red tape. But the "red tape"
>> metaphor is spot on. The content is not actually
>> deleted from their servers. It is made inaccessible
>>
>> to the public. So certain institution if there is a
>> need might still access it. But if I am run over by
>> a tram tomorrow, not sure whether I have a good
>>
>> Software-Escrow for Jekejeke Prolog. Currently
>> you can assume that my company XLOG Technologies AG
>> is resposible for carrying out or delegating the
>>
>> Software-Escrow of Jekejeke Prolog. And the company
>> still exists, it exists in active form, unlike some
>> other Prolog involved companies.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Amzi! Prolog just tells me:
>>>
>>> This Web site will be closing on 6/19/2026.
>>> Dennis Merritt is finally retiring!
>>>
>>> https://www.amzi.com/
>>>
>>> And here he writes:
>>>
>>> I used to earn my living writing and selling software.
>>> My company was AmziLogic LLC, and sold Prolog
>>> and Prolog-based software.
>>>
>>> https://denniscmerritt.com/amzi-inc/
>>>
>>> So who is the benevolent Software-Escrow. Problem
>>> is even if there are lovely Prolog books from Amzi!
>>> The world might tick differently now,
>>>
>>> USA in strong competition over AI with China,
>>> AGI already nocking on the door.
>>>
>>> Markus Triska schrieb:
>>>>                   Frequently Asked Questions - comp.lang.prolog
>>>>
>>>>     Last-modified: 2022-02-24
>>>>     Last-changes: Update link to tutorial by J.R. Fisher. Geoffrey 
>>>> Churchill.
>>>>
>>>> Markus Triska (Mar. 2 2007 - ... )
>>>>
>>>> Remko Troncon (Jan. 6 2002 - Mar. 2 2007)
>>>>
>>>> Dirk-Jan Faber (Feb. 1 1999 - Jan. 6 2002)
>>>>
>>>> Jamie Andrews (Aug 26 1992 - Oct. 16 1997)
>>>>       
>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>       General Information: This article contains the answers to some
>>>>       Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) often seen in
>>>>       news://comp.lang.prolog/. It is posted (twice a month, 
>>>> currently on
>>>>       the 2nd and 16th) to help reduce volume in this newsgroup and to
>>>>       provide hard-to-find information of general interest.
>>>>
>>>>       The World Wide Web URL for this FAQ is:
>>>>       http://www.logic.at/prolog/faq/
>>>>
>>>>       Please send questions about the FAQ and updates to
>>>>       <triska@logic.at>.
>>>>
>>>>     1. What is the Association for Logic Programming?
>>>>
>>>>     To keep up with the current state of logic programming technology,
>>>>     readers can join the Association for Logic Programming (ALP) and
>>>>     receive their Newsletter. For details on how to join or send in
>>>>     contributions, check http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/ALP/ or contact
>>>>
>>>>     Sandro Etalle <etalle@cs.utwente.nl>
>>>>
>>>>     The Prolog Resource Guide (v0.6) was printed in issue 5/1 of the
>>>>     Newsletter (Feb. 1992). This lists information concerning Prolog
>>>>     Archives, Books, Suppliers, etc. It is now maintained by Mark
>>>>     Kantrowitz (<Mark.Kantrowitz@glinda.oz.cs.cmu.edu>), and used to be
>>>>     posted periodically to news://comp.lang.prolog.
>>>>
>>>>     2. Where can I get a free Prolog for system X (PC, Mac, Unix or 
>>>> other)?
>>>>
>>>>     The following are anonymous-FTP sites for free Prologs (or related
>>>>     languages) which are either in the public domain or are 
>>>> "copy-lefted"
>>>>     (permitted to be copied with some restrictions on commercial use).
>>>>
>>>>     (Please note that for extensive development work, users will 
>>>> probably
>>>>     want a robust interpreter or compiler with good debugging 
>>>> facilities
>>>>     and a standard syntax, among other things. While public-domain 
>>>> systems
>>>>     are a valuable service to the community, they do not necessarily 
>>>> have
>>>>     all these things, and users should weigh carefully what they 
>>>> want to do
>>>>     against the capabilities and costs of the available systems.)
>>>>
>>>>     ALF (Algebraic Logic Functional language)
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX
>>>>            + Available: Unknown
>>>>            + E-mail: Rudolf Opalla
>>>>              <opalla@julien.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
>>>>            + Info: WAM-based language with narrowing/rewriting
>>>>
>>>>     Amzi! Prolog + Logic Server
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Window, Linux and Solaris
>>>>            + Available: http://www.amzi.com/download/
>>>>            + E-mail: <info@amzi.com>
>>>>            + Info: Registration is compulsory, except for the Free
>>>>              Academic/Personal/Evaluation License.
>>>>
>>>>     Aquarius Prolog 1.0
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX
>>>>            + Available: 
>>>> http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/people/PVR/aquarius.html
>>>>            + Info: High performance, commercial functionality except
>>>>              debugging and modules.
>>>>
>>>>     Argo Prolog v.1.1
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Solaris 1.x and HP-UX 9.x
>>>>            + Available: Unknown
>>>>            + Contact: Takao Doi <doi@csk.co.jp>
>>>>
>>>>     Arity/Prolog32
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Win32
>>>>            + Available: https://github.com/Peter-Gabel/ArityProlog32
>>>>            + Info: Arity/Prolog32 provides a complete Prolog 
>>>> programming
>>>>              environment in which you can write, debug, and run Prolog
>>>>              programs in 32-bit Windows environments (95/98/NT/2000).
>>>>              Arity/Prolog32 is a powerful, highly optimized, and 
>>>> extended
>>>>              version of the logic programming language Prolog.
>>>>              Arity/Prolog32 is a complete compiler and interpreter 
>>>> written
>>>>              in Prolog, C, and Assembly language and is a superset of
>>>>              Clocksin and Mellish Prolog.
>>>>
>>>>     B-Prolog 8.1
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Win32, Solaris, SunOS, UNIX, FreeBSD and Linux
>>>>            + Available: http://www.probp.com/
>>>>            + E-mail: Neng-Fa Zhou <support@probp.com>
>>>>            + Info: Free of charge for individual users.
>>>>
>>>>     BinProlog 7.0
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Windows 95/98/NT, Linux and all major Unix
>>>>              platforms.
>>>>            + Available: https://code.google.com/archive/p/binprolog/
>>>>            + Info: Download free evaluation copies and see online 
>>>> demos.
>>>>              Inexpensive Educational licensing available.Has built-in
>>>>              networking, multi-threading, mobile code and distributed
>>>>              blackboards. Supports BinNet Internet Programming Tool 
>>>> kit.
>>>>
>>>>     Brain Aid Prolog (BAP) v1.4
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Transputer systems
>>>>            + Info: BAP is a parallel prolog system for Transputer 
>>>> systems.
>>>>              Available under a Berkely style of copyright.
>>>>
>>>>     C#Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Win32, UNIX
>>>>            + Available: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cs-prolog/
>>>>            + E-mail: John Pool <j.pool@ision.nl>
>>>>            + Info: A Prolog interpreter written in C#. Can easily be
>>>>              integrated in C# programs. Characteristics: reliable 
>>>> and quite
>>>>              fast beta version, command line interface, builtin DCG,
>>>>              XML-predicates, persistent predicates (using Firebird 
>>>> RDBMS),
>>>>              extendible.
>>>>
>>>>     Ciao 1.4
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Linux, Win32 (95/98/NT), Solaris, SunOS, 
>>>> UNIX in
>>>>              general.
>>>>            + Available: http://ciao-lang.org
>>>>            + E-mail: Developers <ciao@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>, Users
>>>>              <ciao-users@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>
>>>>            + Info: Next generation LP/CLP system. Commercial 
>>>> functionality,
>>>>              but freely available w/source. ISO-Prolog + modules,
>>>>              networking, multi-threading, clp(r), clp(q), interfaces 
>>>> (Java,
>>>>              C, tcltk, WWW, databases/ODBC, ...), functions, 
>>>> higher-order,
>>>>              records, persistence, objects, assertions (types, 
>>>> modes, ...),
>>>>              source debugger, auto-documenter, static debugger, and 
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>>     clp(FD)
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX
>>>>            + Contact: Daniel Diaz <daniel.diaz@inria.fr>
>>>>            + Info: Constraint logic programming over finite domains.
>>>>              Requires GNU C v.2.4.5 or higher.
>>>>
>>>>     clp(FD,S)
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX
>>>>            + Contact: Yan Georget <Yan.Georget@inria.fr>
>>>>            + Info: Requires GNU C (gcc) version 2.4.5. or higher.
>>>>
>>>>     CLP(R)
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX
>>>>            + Available: E-mail request from Joxan Jaffar
>>>>              <joxan@watson.ibm.com>.
>>>>            + Info: Constraint logic programming language, for 
>>>> academic and
>>>>              research purposes only.
>>>>
>>>>     CxProlog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX, MacOS X, Windows
>>>>            + Available: http://ctp.di.fct.unl.pt/~amd/cxprolog/
>>>>            + Info: Open source (GPL) implementation supporting Unicode,
>>>>              threads, sockets, processes, contexts, imperative data
>>>>              structures, and interfaces with C/C++, Java, and wxWidgets
>>>>            + Contact: Artur Miguel Dias <amd@fct.unl.pt>
>>>>
>>>>     ECLiPSe Constraint Logic Programming System, subsuming Prolog.
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Solaris, Linux, Linux/Alpha, Mac OS X, Windows
>>>>            + Available: http://eclipseclp.org or
>>>>              http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/eclipse-clp
>>>>            + Info: ECLiPSe is a Prolog and Constraint Programming 
>>>> platform
>>>>              with a long history and has been open-source since Sept 
>>>> 2006.
>>>>            + License: MPL
>>>>
>>>>     IF Prolog V5.3
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP, Linux, Solaris, AIX,
>>>>              HP-UX and other UNIX platforms
>>>>            + Available: http://www.ifcomputer.de/Products/Prolog/
>>>>            + E-mail: <info@ifcomputer.de>
>>>>            + Info: IF Prolog is a commercial Prolog system with 
>>>> interfaces
>>>>              to C/C++, Java, sockets, Windows events and a COM 
>>>> servers. A
>>>>              graphical debugger allows step-forward, step backward
>>>>              debugging of Prolog code. A static module concept 
>>>> allows many
>>>>              additional errors to be detected at compile time. 
>>>> Constraint
>>>>              Programming (for finite domains, intervals and booleans 
>>>> using
>>>>              global constraints and linear optimisation).
>>>>            + License: Free evaluation copies and inexpensive 
>>>> educational
>>>>              licensing available.
>>>>
>>>>     GNU Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Many Unixes, Windows, MacOS X
>>>>            + Available: http://www.gprolog.org/
>>>>            + E-mail: Daniel Diaz <daniel.diaz@inria.fr>
>>>>
>>>>     Jinni 2.27
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Java-based
>>>>            + Available: https://github.com/heathmanb/JinniProlog
>>>>            + Info: Multi-threaded, Java based Prolog interpreter with
>>>>              built-in networking, distributed blackboards and mobile 
>>>> code
>>>>              (inexpensive shareware licensing available).
>>>>
>>>>     JIProlog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Java-based
>>>>            + Available: http://www.jiprolog.com/
>>>>            + Info: Java Internet Prolog is a cross-platform pure 
>>>> Java 100%
>>>>              prolog interpreter that supplies Java world with the 
>>>> power of
>>>>              prolog language and provides prolog language with a 
>>>> technology
>>>>              to implement new predicates in Java.
>>>>
>>>>     KLIC
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX
>>>>            + Info: ICOT Free Software. Concurrent logic programming. 
>>>> Tested
>>>>              on Sparcs, DEC 7000, Gateway P5-60.
>>>>            + Contact: <ifs@icot.or.jp>
>>>>
>>>>     LPA Win-Prolog, demo version
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Windows
>>>>            + Available: Available from http://www.lpa.co.uk/ind_dow.htm
>>>>
>>>>     MINERVA
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Java
>>>>            + Info: Proprietary commercial ISO-Prolog Compiler in 
>>>> 100% Java
>>>>              support for web programming, XML, servlets, applets,
>>>>              standalones. Free evaluation license.
>>>>
>>>>     Modular SB-Prolog (= SB-Prolog version 3.1 plus modules)
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: SPARC, DECstation, MIPS, HP 9000 series, Sun 3.
>>>>            + Info: Copy-lefted.
>>>>
>>>>     Open Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Apple Macintosh
>>>>            + Available: http://www.cs.tcd.ie/open-prolog/
>>>>            + E-mail: <brady@cs.tcd.ie>. (Michael Brady).
>>>>
>>>>     Poplog Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Various Unixes, including Sun, Dec Alpha, HP 
>>>> and
>>>>              many others. Also a Win32 version is available. Sources
>>>>              available for other combinations.
>>>>            + Available: At the Free Poplog Web/FTP site, including full
>>>>              sources
>>>>              http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/freepoplog.html
>>>>            + E-mail: queries may be posted to news://comp.lang.pop/, 
>>>> or to
>>>>              <pop-forum@cs.bham.ac.uk> or <A.Sloman@cs.bham.ac.uk> 
>>>> (Last
>>>>              resort!)
>>>>            + Info: Robust incremental compiler, part of the 
>>>> multi-language
>>>>              Poplog system (including Common Lisp, Pop-11 and 
>>>> Standard ML).
>>>>              Unix, Linux & VMS versions include full support for X 
>>>> window
>>>>              facilities/Motif. More information at
>>>>              http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/poplog.info.html
>>>>              Licence modelled on XFree86. Can be freely distributed, 
>>>> though
>>>>              copyright is owned by Sussex University and ISL.
>>>>
>>>>     PIE2
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Unknown
>>>>            + Available: On CompuServe in the AIEXPERT forum, 
>>>> interpreter
>>>>              and examples in PIE2.ZIP, documentation in PIEDOC.ZIP.
>>>>            + E-mail: Brent Ruggles <ruggles@shell.com>
>>>>
>>>>     QuProlog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX, Linux, beta for MAC
>>>>            + Available:
>>>>              http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~pjr/HomePages/QuPrologHome.html
>>>>            + E-mail: <pjr@itee.uq.edu.au>
>>>>            + Info: Extended WAM with support for quantifiers and
>>>>              substitutions, multi-threaded, high-level communication.
>>>>
>>>>     Scryer Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Unix, Linux, Windows and Mac
>>>>            + Available: https://github.com/mthom/scryer-prolog
>>>>            + Info: A modern Prolog system written mostly in Rust.
>>>>
>>>>     Strawberry Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Windows 95/NT, plans for UNIX and Macintosh
>>>>            + Available: http://www.dobrev.com/
>>>>            + E-mail: <dimiter@dobrev.com>
>>>>
>>>>     SWI Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Binaries for Linux, Windows 
>>>> (NT/2000/XP/Vista) and
>>>>              Mac OS X (darwin). Sources: ANSI-C, both 32 and 64-bit
>>>>              machines, compiles on almost all Unix systems and more.
>>>>            + Available: http://www.swi-prolog.org
>>>>            + Info: Complete, ISO and Edinburgh standard, common
>>>>              optimizations, GC including atoms. Portable graphics, 
>>>> multiple
>>>>              threads, constraints, comprehensive libraries for 
>>>> (semantic)
>>>>              web programming, Unicode, source-level debugger, advanced
>>>>              syntax colouring
>>>>            + License: Simplified BSD. Run license/0 for more 
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>>     Tau Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Web-based
>>>>            + Available: http://tau-prolog.org/
>>>>            + Info: An open source Prolog interpreter in JavaScript.
>>>>
>>>>     Trinc-Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Windows 95/98/NT 4.0, plans for Windows 
>>>> 2000, Linux
>>>>              and Sun Solaris
>>>>            + E-mail: <info@trinc-prolog.com>
>>>>
>>>>     Visual Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Win32
>>>>            + Available: http://www.visual-prolog.com
>>>>            + Info: Includes all the facilities necessary to write 
>>>> mission
>>>>              critical commercial-grade applications. Fully visual
>>>>              development environment. Open architecture. 
>>>> Object-oriented.
>>>>              Built-in database system and ODBC support. Visual Prolog
>>>>              Personal Edition is available on a freeware license.
>>>>
>>>>     wamcc
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX
>>>>            + Info: Compiler which translates Prolog to C via WAM.
>>>>              Debuggers. Requires GNU C v.2.4.5 or higher.
>>>>            + Contact: Daniel Diaz <daniel.diaz@inria.fr>
>>>>
>>>>     XGP
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Apple Macintosh OS X, 10.2.3+
>>>>            + Available: http://xgp.sourceforge.net/
>>>>            + Info: XGP is an open source (GPL) integrated development
>>>>              environment with user interface and graphics support 
>>>> based on
>>>>              gprolog and Cocoa under Macintosh OS X.
>>>>
>>>>     XSB
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: Many, including SunOS, Linux and Windows
>>>>            + Available: http://xsb.sourceforge.net/
>>>>            + E-mail: <xsb-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>>            + Info: system with SLG-resolution, HiLog syntax, and
>>>>              unification factoring.
>>>>
>>>>     Yap
>>>>
>>>>            + Platforms: UNIX-based platforms and Windows
>>>>            + Available: https://github.com/vscosta/yap-6.3
>>>>            + E-mail: Vitor Santos Costa <vsc@ncc.up.pt>
>>>>            + Info: Yap is entirely written in C and Prolog and 
>>>> should be
>>>>              portable to most 32-bit and 64-bit Unix based platforms. A
>>>>              Windows port is also available. Yap4.2 is distributed 
>>>> under
>>>>              Perl's artistic license and can be freely distributed.
>>>>
>>>>     3. What commercial systems are available? What about systems 
>>>> available
>>>>     for a price from research institutions?
>>>>
>>>>     Many commercial systems are listed in the Prolog Resource Guide. 
>>>> The
>>>>     Resource Guide also lists many systems which are not exactly
>>>>     "commercial", but available for a price from research 
>>>> institutions. The
>>>>     list of such systems was originally compiled by Chris Moss, of 
>>>> Imperial
>>>>     College. The rest of the Resource Guide was originally compiled 
>>>> by Dag
>>>>     Wahlberg, of Uppsala University.
>>>>
>>>>     The Prolog Resource Guide hasn't been updated lately, but 
>>>> nevertheless
>>>>     still contains some valuable information. It can be found at
>>>> http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/faqs/lang/prolog/prg/top.html.
>>>>
>>>>     4. How do I get in touch with my Prolog's users' group, sales
>>>>     representative, or technical support line?
>>>>
>>>>     Here are some e-mail addresses of these contacts, listed 
>>>> alphabetically
>>>>     by company or major product name.
>>>>
>>>>     ALS (Applied Logic Systems)
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://alsprolog.com
>>>>
>>>>     Amzi! inc.
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.amzi.com
>>>>            + Information: <info@amzi.com>
>>>>            + Sales: <sales@amzi.com>
>>>>            + Support: <support@amzi.com>
>>>>
>>>>     Arity/Prolog32
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: https://github.com/Peter-Gabel/ArityProlog32
>>>>
>>>>     Ciao, PiLLoW, WebDB, etc.
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.clip.dia.fi.upm.es/Software
>>>>            + Users' group: <ciao-users@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>
>>>>            + Information: <ciao@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>
>>>>            + Tech support: <ciao-bugs@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>
>>>>
>>>>     COSYTEC (CHIP V5)
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.cosytec.com
>>>>            + Information: <info@cosytec.com> (or .fr)
>>>>            + Tech Support: <support@cosytec.com> (or .fr)
>>>>
>>>>     ECLiPSe
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://eclipseclp.org
>>>>            + Users' group: <eclipse-clp-users@lists.sf.net>
>>>>            + Tech support: <http://eclipseclp.org/bugs.html>
>>>>            + Support contracts: <info@coninfer.com>
>>>>
>>>>     Expert Systems Ltd. (Prolog-2)
>>>>
>>>>            + Sales: <sales@expert.demon.co.uk>
>>>>            + Support: <support@expert.demon.co.uk>
>>>>            + Users' group: <prolog2-request@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
>>>>
>>>>     GNU Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.gprolog.org/
>>>>            + Users' group: <users-prolog-request@gnu.org>
>>>>            + Bug reports: <bug-prolog@gnu.org>
>>>>
>>>>     LPA
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.lpa.co.uk/
>>>>            + Sales: <sales@lpa.co.uk>
>>>>            + Tech support: <support@lpa.co.uk>
>>>>
>>>>     MasterProLog
>>>>
>>>>            + Formerly BIM ProLog
>>>>
>>>>     PDC Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + PDC Prolog is the succesor to Turbo Prolog and the 
>>>> predecessor
>>>>              to Visual Prolog.
>>>>
>>>>     ProLog by BIM
>>>>
>>>>            + Currently MasterProLog
>>>>
>>>>     Quintus
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://quintus.sics.se
>>>>            + Mailing list: see
>>>>              http://www.sics.se/isl/quintuswww/site/community.html
>>>>            + Sales: <qpsales@sics.se>
>>>>            + Tech support: <qpsupport@sics.se>
>>>>
>>>>     SICStus
>>>>
>>>>            + Web page: http://www.sics.se/sicstus
>>>>            + Mailing list: see
>>>>              http://www.sics.se/isl/sicstuswww/site/community.html
>>>>            + Sales: <sicstus-request@sics.se>
>>>>            + Tech support: <sicstus-support@sics.se>
>>>>
>>>>     Trinc / Trinc-Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Information: <info@trinc-prolog.com>
>>>>            + Sales: <sales@trinc-prolog.com>
>>>>            + Support: <support@trinc-prolog.com>
>>>>
>>>>     Turbo Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Turbo Prolog is the predecessor of PDC Prolog (see above).
>>>>
>>>>     Visual Prolog
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.visual-prolog.com/
>>>>            + Information: <sales@pdc.dk> (or <sales@visual-prolog.com>)
>>>>            + Sales: <sales@pdc.dk> (or <sales@visual-prolog.com>)
>>>>            + Tech support: <support@pdc.dk> (or
>>>>              <support@visual-prolog.com>)
>>>>
>>>>     5. I think language X is better than Prolog. What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>     These debates rarely result in any productive discussion. To some
>>>>     extent, one's favourite language is based on irrational ideology.
>>>>
>>>>     However, many people now agree that different languages are good 
>>>> for
>>>>     different things. Prolog seems to be good for problems in which 
>>>> logic
>>>>     is intimately involved, or whose solutions have a succinct logical
>>>>     characterization. Like other interactive, symbolic languages, 
>>>> Prolog is
>>>>     also good for rapid prototyping.
>>>>
>>>>     Also, note that there are many different "Prologs" and other logic
>>>>     programming languages available, all with different capabilities.
>>>>
>>>>     6. What are the recent developments?
>>>>
>>>>     There are some languages in development which do not have Prolog
>>>>     syntax, but do subsume and generalize Prolog's logic programming
>>>>     abilities.
>>>>
>>>>     Mercury
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.mercury.cs.mu.oz.au/index.html
>>>>
>>>>     The Mozart Consortium:
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://mozart.github.io/
>>>>            + Mailing lists: <http://mozart.github.io/mailing-lists/>
>>>>
>>>>     Some other languages bring new developments while also supporting
>>>>     Prolog syntax and functionality as an option:
>>>>
>>>>     Ciao
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://www.clip.dia.fi.upm.es/Software
>>>>            + Users' group: <ciao-users@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>
>>>>            + Information: <ciao@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>
>>>>            + Tech support: <ciao-bugs@clip.dia.fi.upm.es>
>>>>
>>>>     Logtalk
>>>>
>>>>            + Web site: http://logtalk.org/
>>>>            + E-mail: Paulo Moura <pmoura@logtalk.org>
>>>>            + Info: Open source object-oriented extension to Prolog
>>>>              compatible with most Prolog compilers.
>>>>
>>>>     7. My Prolog prof assigned me this problem. Can you help me with 
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>>     If your instructor assigned it to you, he or she probably wanted 
>>>> you to
>>>>     do it yourself. If it's an introductory Prolog course, your 
>>>> question
>>>>     might be elementary to most readers, so it might be a waste of 
>>>> network
>>>>     resources to ask it. Please ask your instructor, a friend, a 
>>>> teaching
>>>>     assistant, or a local newsgroup for help first.
>>>>
>>>>     That being said, there are news://comp.lang.prolog/ readers who 
>>>> would
>>>>     be glad to help people making a legitimate attempt to learn Prolog.
>>>>
>>>>     8. Can you suggest some books on Prolog?
>>>>
>>>>     The Prolog Resource Guide (see above) contains a listing of Prolog
>>>>     books. It is maintained by Mark Kantrowitz
>>>>     (<Mark.Kantrowitz@glinda.oz.cs.cmu.edu>), and posted 
>>>> periodically on
>>>>     news://comp.lang.prolog.
>>>>
>>>>     Here are some of the most popular books on Prolog.
>>>>
>>>>     Introductory
>>>>
>>>>            + "Programming In Prolog". William F. Clocksin and 
>>>> Christopher
>>>>              S. Mellish. Springer-Verlag, 2003 (5th ed).
>>>>            + "Prolog for Programmers". Feliks Kluzniak and Stanislaw
>>>>              Szpakowicz. Academic Press, London, 1985, now available
>>>>              without charge from
>>>>              https://sites.google.com/site/prologforprogrammers/
>>>>            + "Prolog Programming for Artificial Intelligence". Ivan 
>>>> Bratko.
>>>>              Addison-Wesley, 2001 (3rd ed).
>>>>
>>>>     Advanced
>>>>
>>>>            + "The Art of Prolog: Advanced Programming Techniques". Leon
>>>>              Sterling and Ehud Shapiro. MIT Press, 1994 (2nd ed).
>>>>            + "The Craft of Prolog". Richard A. O'Keefe. MIT Press, 
>>>> 1990.
>>>>
>>>>     Logic programming theory
>>>>
>>>>            + "Foundations of Logic Programming". John Lloyd.
>>>>              Springer-Verlag, 1988 (2nd ed).
>>>>            + "Logic, Programming and Prolog". Ulf Nilsson and Jan
>>>>              Maluszynski. Originally published by John Wiley & Sons Ltd
>>>>              (2nd ed. 1995) and now available without charge from
>>>>              http://www.ida.liu.se/~ulfni/lpp
>>>>
>>>>     Expert Systems
>>>>
>>>>            + "Building Expert Systems in Prolog". Dennis Merritt.
>>>>              Springer-Verlag, 1989. HTML & PDF versions available from
>>>>              http://www.amzi.com/ExpertSystemsInProlog
>>>>
>>>>     9. Are there any WWW archives of comp.lang.prolog ?
>>>>
>>>>     Yes, there are: Google Groups has archives of 
>>>> news://comp.lang.prolog/.
>>>>     They can be found at
>>>>     https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.prolog
>>>>
>>>>     10. How can I get the ISO Prolog standard? Where can I go for more
>>>>     information about it?
>>>>
>>>>     You can obtain the approved international standards from your 
>>>> national
>>>>     member body or directly from ISO (http://www.iso.org).
>>>>
>>>>     The working group on Prolog standardisation is ISO/IEC 
>>>> JTC1/SC22/WG17
>>>>     (http://www.sju.edu/~jhodgson/wg17/).
>>>>
>>>>     Contacts:
>>>>
>>>>            + Convenor of WG17: Ulrich Neumerkel
>>>>              (<ulrich@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>)
>>>>
>>>>     Further literature: "Prolog: The Standard (Reference manual)", P.
>>>>     Deransart, A. Ed-Dbali, L. Cervoni, Springer Verlag (1996). Extra
>>>>     information can be found on
>>>>     http://pauillac.inria.fr/~deransar/prolog/docs.html
>>>>
>>>> http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/pr
>>>>     olog/doc/standard/ contains the December 1991 draft, the March 1993
>>>>     draft, Michael Covington's summary of it, and Richard O'Keefe's 
>>>> 1984
>>>>     Prolog standard draft.
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/ulrich/iso-prolog/ ISO Prolog 
>>>> works
>>>>     and related material by the convenor of WG17.
>>>>
>>>>     For questions about the standard, use this newsgroup or 
>>>> Stackoverflow.
>>>>
>>>>     11. How does the WAM (Warren Abstract Machine) work? How do I 
>>>> write a
>>>>     WAM-based compiler or a WAM emulator?
>>>>
>>>>     Reportedly the best tutorial is Hassan Ait-Kaci's book "Warren's
>>>>     Abstract Machine: A Tutorial Reconstruction" (MIT Press, 1991). The
>>>>     book is out of print, and available online at
>>>>     http://wambook.sourceforge.net.
>>>>
>>>>     12. Is there a WWW page on logic programming?
>>>>
>>>>     Yes, there is one by Jonathan Bowen; the URL is
>>>>     http://www.afm.sbu.ac.uk/logic-prog/. He invites us to mail him at
>>>>     <jonathan.bowen@sbu.ac.uk> with any relevant information for 
>>>> inclusion.
>>>>
>>>>     A collection of artifacts from logic programming languages 
>>>> beginning
>>>>     with Marseille Prolog is available from
>>>>     http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/prolog/index.html
>>>>
>>>>     A large amount of Prolog code is available from the CMU AI 
>>>> Repository:
>>>> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/prolog/0.htm
>>>>     l
>>>>
>>>>     Recently, Stackoverflow has become a valuable resource for Prolog
>>>>     questions and answers: 
>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/prolog
>>>>
>>>>     Another community resource is the #prolog IRC channel on
>>>>     irc.libera.chat.
>>>>
>>>>     13. Can I do Internet/WWW programming with Prolog?
>>>>
>>>>     Prolog is very suitable for this task. Several commercial and free
>>>>     implementations include special support for it. A page 
>>>> specifically on
>>>>     this topic (including some tutorials) is maintained at
>>>>     http://www.clip.dia.fi.upm.es/lpnet/lpnet.html. A public-domain 
>>>> library
>>>>     exists (PiLLoW) for several popular Prolog systems which helps 
>>>> in the
>>>>     task. See: http://www.clip.dia.fi.upm.es/Software/pillow/
>>>>
>>>>     14. Is there a WWW page with some tutorials on Prolog?
>>>>
>>>>     Beginner level:
>>>>
>>>>            + Adventure in Prolog:
>>>>              http://www.amzi.com/AdventureInProlog/advfrtop.htm
>>>>            + On-line guide to Prolog Programming:
>>>>              http://kti.ms.mff.cuni.cz/~bartak/prolog/index.html
>>>>            + Prolog Programming, A First Course:
>>>>              
>>>> http://computing.unn.ac.uk/staff/cgpb4/prologbook/book.html
>>>>            + Learn Prolog Now!: http://www.learnprolognow.org
>>>>
>>>>     Intermediate to advanced level:
>>>>
>>>>            + https://skolemmachines.org/ThePrologTutorial/
>>>>
>>>>     15. How do I edit Prolog code?
>>>>
>>>>     Emacs and VIM ship with basic support for Prolog. A much 
>>>> improved Emacs
>>>>     mode is maintained by Stefan Bruda and available from
>>>>     https://bruda.ca/emacs/prolog_mode_for_emacs
>>>>
>>>>     Logtalk ships with various editing services for many common 
>>>> editors,
>>>>     also usable for Prolog.
>>>>
>>>>     SWI Prolog has a built-in Emacs clone called PceEmacs. There are 
>>>> also
>>>>     Emacs definitions that let you evaluate embedded queries:
>>>>     https://www.metalevel.at/ediprolog/. An SWI Prolog programming
>>>>     environment suitable for schools is available from
>>>>     http://lernen.bildung.hessen.de/informatik/swiprolog/indexe.htm
>>>>
>>>>     A Prolog plug-in for the "Eclipse"-IDE is available from:
>>>>     http://eclipse.ime.usp.br/projetos/grad/plugin-prolog/index.html
>>>>
>>>>     A sophisticated integrated editing and teaching environment with
>>>>     declarative debugging, termination analysis and many 
>>>> visualisations is
>>>>     available from http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/ulrich/gupu/
>>>>
>>>>     16. How do I publish Prolog code?
>>>>
>>>>     Logtalk ships with support for various syntax highlighters, also 
>>>> usable
>>>>     for Prolog. These include support for Pygments (used e.g. on 
>>>> Trac and
>>>>     GitHub), Rouge (use e.g. in GitLab), GeSHi (used e.g. on Wikis), 
>>>> minted
>>>>     and texments LaTeX packages (e.g. source code listings), Google 
>>>> Code
>>>>     Prettify, Source-highlight, Highlight, SyntaxHighlighter, and SHJS
>>>>     (JavaScript highlighter for e.g. web pages).
>>>>
>>>> Acknowledgements
>>>>
>>>>     Thank you to all the people who helped put together the first 
>>>> version
>>>>     of this FAQ, and everyone who has contributed to it over the years.
>>>>     Special thanks to John Dowding for suggesting a good format for the
>>>>     list, and to Chris Moss, Dag Wahlberg, and Mark Kantrowitz for 
>>>> their
>>>>     work on the Prolog Resource Guide.
>>>>
>>>>     Special thanks to Jamie Andrews, Dirk-Jan Faber and Remko 
>>>> Troncon, who
>>>>     have been maintaining and posting the FAQ in the past.
>>>>
>>>
>>
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