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| From | olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.theory |
| Subject | Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? |
| Date | 2025-11-02 20:25 -0600 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <10e93qu$2iuni$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 11/2/2025 7:26 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 11/2/2025 8:17 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 11/2/2025 7:04 PM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 11/2/2025 7:35 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 11/2/2025 6:32 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>> On 11/2/2025 7:25 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/1/2025 11:08 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02/11/2025 02:41, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no duffer speak to this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> int D()
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> int Halt_Status = H(D);
>>>>>>>> if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>> return Halt_Status;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> D simulated by H cannot possibly reach its
>>>>>>>> own simulated "return" statement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think that you have become dishonest
>>>>>>>> so what is up with the "duffer speak" reference
>>>>>>>> to my perfectly unambiguous statements?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is my honest opinion of what you write.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Just pay 100% complete attention to this one sentence*
>>>>>> D simulated by H cannot possibly reach its
>>>>>> own simulated "return" statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rejected out-of-hand as unclear. All references to "D" and "H"
>>>>> must be prefixed by exactly one of:
>>>>> * algorithm
>>>>> * C function
>>>>> * finite string
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you think that this might be a box of
>>>> chocolates unless I told you otherwise?
>>>>
>>>> int D()
>>>> {
>>>> int Halt_Status = H(D);
>>>> if (Halt_Status)
>>>> HERE: goto HERE;
>>>> return Halt_Status;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That part is clear. What's not clear is the sentence:
>>>
>>> >>> D simulated by H cannot possibly reach its
>>> >>> own simulated "return" statement.
>>>
>>> All references to "D" and "H" must be prefixed by exactly one of:
>>> * algorithm
>>> * C function
>>> * finite string
>>
>> D is a finite string
>
> And what exactly is that finite string composed of?
>
>> in the C programming
>> language that specifies a sequence of steps
>> and defines a C function.
>
> So you're claiming that finite string D is a description of C function D?
>
No that is too vague. It is exactly what I said it is.
Did you think it was a box of chocolates?
>>
>> Did you think it was a box of chocolates?
>>
>> H is something or other that can simulate
>> D and is callable from D.
>
> So it sounds like H is not well-defined.
It is 100% perfectly and completely defined for
its specific purpose.
> Unless you can classify it as
> a C function, finite string, or algorithm, you claim will be dismissed
> out-of-hand as unclear.
>
Yes because simulation might be construed as an
actual slap in the actual face and have nothing
to do with following the steps specified by the
C source code.
>>
>> Does that sound like a dead bullfrog?
>>
>
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
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Plonkers Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-11-02 01:46 +0000
Re: Plonkers Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-11-02 02:12 +0000
"duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 21:41 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-11-02 04:08 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 23:14 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 00:32 -0400
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-02 07:34 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-11-02 04:39 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-11-02 14:10 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 14:26 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-11-02 22:58 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 22:27 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-11-02 23:35 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 22:57 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 18:25 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 19:32 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 18:35 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 20:04 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 19:17 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 20:26 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 20:25 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 21:33 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 20:53 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 22:11 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 21:16 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 22:27 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-11-03 03:49 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 22:24 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-11-03 01:00 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 20:06 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-11-03 02:35 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 20:54 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 21:13 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 19:07 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 20:08 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-02 07:15 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 07:16 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 21:46 +0800
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 07:54 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 22:12 +0800
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 23:23 +0800
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 14:29 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 08:48 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 07:57 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 09:00 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 08:09 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 09:13 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 09:12 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 12:18 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 14:31 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 16:42 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-02 14:19 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 08:42 -0600
Re: Plonkers Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-02 07:10 +0000
Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 07:47 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 22:19 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 10:32 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 00:42 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 11:18 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 01:33 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 12:00 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 02:13 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 12:30 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:09 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:16 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:23 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:27 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:34 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:37 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:52 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:57 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 04:01 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 14:31 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 05:22 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 15:32 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-11-03 22:38 +0000
Re: Addressing duffer-speak "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 15:25 -0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 19:40 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak --- head games olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 06:31 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak --- head games dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 07:53 -0500
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