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Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS --- gist understood

From dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
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Subject Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS --- gist understood
Date 2025-10-31 12:29 -0700
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On 10/31/25 9:18 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 10/30/25 2:27 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 10/29/25 8:42 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 10/29/2025 10:23 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 10/29/25 6:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/29/25 12:24 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/29/25 4:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/28/25 11:23 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/28/25 6:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/25 9:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/25 6:34 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2025 5:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>> not my argument u fucking useless boomer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, how do you solve the halting problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with reflection, something u lack as a useless fucking boomer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which you can't say how to do, because your only answer is to 
>>>>>>>>> define that you can.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we haven't even gotten the point of working out the 
>>>>>>>> ramifications of what i've defined,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because you haven't actually defined what you are doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> blatant lie
>>>>>
>>>>> Really, show where you have ACTUALLY fully defined your computation 
>>>>> machine to a level you can actually analyize one.
>>>>>
>>>> TMs with a modification, specifically adding full mechanical 
>>>> reflection to TMs in order to produce Reflective TMs (RTMs)
>>>>
>>>> adding full mechanical reflection just means it gets a single 
>>>> instruction that dumps *all* this information to the tape, at the 
>>>> head, when that instruction is called:
>>>>
>>>> 1) machine description
>>>> 2) initial tape state
>>>> 3) current instruction
>>>> 4) current tape state
>>>>
>>>> call it REFLECT, if u will... this information allows a computation 
>>>> to know exactly where it is in the overall runtime of computation, 
>>>> and with that it can subvert semantic paradoxes like the halting 
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> you have to understand this is a *mechanical* modification to turing 
>>>> machines, not a computational one. much like how RTMs can move a 
>>>> head left/right, or write 0/1 to the tape ... they mechanically just 
>>>> do this operation when the instruction is called.
>>>>
>>>> *these mechanics are (relatively) simple and self-evidentially 
>>>> possible and therefore mathematically feasible.*
>>>>
>>>> BUT, let me try a step deeper, and quote turing at you from his 
>>>> original paper on computable numbers:
>>>>
>>>> /We may compare a man in the process of computing a real number to a
>>>> machine which is only capable of a finite number of conditions/ [Tur36]
>>>>
>>>> THE ENTIRE JUSTIFICATION FOR TURING MACHINES RESTS SQUARELY ON THE 
>>>> NOTION OF "CAN A MAN MECHANICALLY UNDERTAKE THESE STATE TRANSITIONS"
>>>>
>>>> 1) if a man is running thru the steps of a computation, then 
>>>> obviously he has access the full machine description, or how else 
>>>> the fuck is he doing any of these state transitions??? therefore he 
>>>> obviously can dump the machine description, in whatever format he 
>>>> has it in, to the tape when REFLECT is encountered.
>>>>
>>>> 2) if a man is running thru the steps of a computation, then 
>>>> obviously he can to the side save the initial tape in a "buffer" 
>>>> that than cannot be overwritten. with that he can can obviously dump 
>>>> the initial tape state to the tape whenever REFLECT is encountered.
>>>>
>>>> 3) if a man is running thru the steps of a computation, then 
>>>> obviously he has access input of a particular transition, and 
>>>> therefore can dump that input to the tape when REFLECT is 
>>>> encountered, in whatever format he encounters it in.
>>>>
>>>> 4) if a man is running thru the steps of a computation ... he can 
>>>> obviously duplicate the tape when REFLECT is called. or more 
>>>> precisely he can save it into a buffer, and dump from the buffer 
>>>> after putting 1-3 on the tape.
>>>>
>>>> THAT IS THE SAME LEVEL OF FORMAT JUSTIFICATION TURING ULTIMATELY 
>>>> GIVES FOR ANY COMPUTING MACHINE. SERIOUSLY READ HIS FUCKING ESSAY 
>>>> YOU DORK
>>>>
>>>> please tell me where u are confused, not how u think i'm wrong
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can finally see the gist of what you are saying
>>> and it seems to be very similar to my idea.
>>
>> like i've said polcott, i consider you having a half-way solution. u 
>> have something that's executable for sure, and that is a definite 
>> improvement over total undecidability.
>>
>> but it's not totally epistemically useful, it still doesn't / 
>> effectively compute/ the halting function in a *general* manner.
>>
>> i'm proposing something that's both executable *and* epistemically 
>> useful for that purpose.
>>
>> the RTM i'm proposing here is just the underlying theoretical 
>> mechanisms that can be used to produce a theoretically coherent 
>> context-dependent decider,
>>
>> which can then be used to /effectively compute/ the halting function 
>> irrespective of semantic paradoxes ...
>>
>> something that is in total a step beyond the mere executability that 
>> you are proposing.
>>
> 
> No, the problem you have is that you make the same error and try to 
> redefine the question, and allow your machine to give wrong answers.

it's not a "wrong" answer if it contains no information to be wrong 
about, and it's only given in a situation where there's no "right" answer.

how is it reasonable to expect a decider to respond truthfully to a 
situation that would only make that truth untrue?

 > that's incredibly unfair of you
 >
 > #god

-- 
a burnt out swe investigating into why our tooling doesn't involve
basic semantic proofs like halting analysis

please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,

~ nick

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                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:50 -0700
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                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-29 21:45 -0400
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                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS --- gist understood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 22:42 -0500
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                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS --- gist understood Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-31 22:59 -0400
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                philosophy matters in practice dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:18 -0700
                Re: philosophy matters in practice Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-11-01 09:19 -0400
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                Re: richard the lying retard Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-11-02 23:13 -0500
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                Re: literal nonsene Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-11-02 23:29 -0500
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                wow richard is a retard dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-31 17:11 -0700
                Re: wow richard is a retard --- Maybe his ADD is much worse than I thought olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 19:17 -0500
                if only polcott ... dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-31 18:43 -0700
                Re: if only polcott ... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 21:02 -0500
                Re: if only polcott ... Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-31 23:42 -0400
                Re: if only polcott ... dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:11 -0700
                Re: if only polcott ... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 08:04 -0500
                Re: wow richard is a retard --- Maybe his ADD is much worse than I thought Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-31 23:20 -0400
                Re: wow richard is a retard Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-31 23:13 -0400
                Re: wow richard is a retard dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-31 20:28 -0700
                Re: wow richard is a retard Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-11-01 00:04 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-30 07:32 -0400
                wow richard is a retard dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 11:13 -0700
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                Re: wow richard is a retard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 16:02 -0500
                A self-reflecting UTM olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 14:18 -0500
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                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 14:01 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 12:30 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 12:38 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:41 -0500
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 13:55 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 13:57 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 13:48 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 13:51 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:00 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 14:01 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-28 21:53 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-28 21:48 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-29 07:29 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 09:21 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-29 21:46 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 12:42 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 12:42 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 13:42 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 13:46 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 16:09 -0500
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 14:13 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:21 -0700
                fuck chris dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 14:22 -0700
                Re: fuck chris "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:38 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-29 21:46 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 19:53 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 20:02 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-30 07:32 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-30 07:32 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:20 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:18 -0700
                fuck chris dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 14:20 -0700
                Re: fuck chris "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:36 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-29 21:46 -0400
                fuck chris dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 19:49 -0700
                Three Reviewers best ignored and some good ones olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 22:01 -0500
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                Re: Three Reviewers best ignored and some good ones wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:50 +0800
                Re: Three Reviewers best ignored and some good ones "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 13:25 -0700
                Re: Three Reviewers best ignored and some good ones olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 09:51 -0500
                Re: Three Reviewers best ignored and some good ones "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 13:36 -0700
                Re: fuck chris Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-10-30 07:32 -0400
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 12:43 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 12:48 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:18 -0700
                fuck chris dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 14:19 -0700
                Re: I WANT TO COMPUTE SEMANTIC FACTS ABOUT COMPUTATIONS "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 18:39 -0700
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