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Re: Illegal weather forecast website?

From Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Illegal weather forecast website?
Date 2025-10-29 13:02 +0000
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On 29/10/2025 11:30, Alan B wrote:
> On 2025-10-29, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 28/10/2025 15:01, Alan B wrote:
>>> On 28 Oct 2025 at 14:55:05 GMT, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/10/2025 11:41, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-10-28, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 27 Oct 2025 at 08:44:45 GMT, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Selecting my local area from the Met Office website:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> used to display a fairly comprehensive weather foracast, today it
>>>>>>>>> displayed a huge animation of clouds and a useless summary.  It also
>>>>>>>>> displayed a message that if I wanted to see more information I would
>>>>>>>>> have to turn on cookies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Surely this is illegal; the information displayed should be the same
>>>>>>>>> regardless of the choice of cookies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've looked around at other weather forecasts and found that
>>>>>>>> <netweather.tv> has less eye candy and gives more comprehensive
>>>>>>>> information in fewer pages than the Met Office.  If it proves to be
>>>>>>>> reasonably accurate, I'll stick with netweather from now on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A bit pared back for me. I've used Windy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.windy.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for a while, and still use the Met Office despite the new design.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pic of the phone apps is Apple's Weather app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't find the Apple Weather to be very accurate. I've been using Yr
>>>>>> recently which been better. Looks good too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't find any of these forecasting sites particularly good. There's
>>>>> too much reliance on satellite data rather than ground observations
>>>>> by humans and automatic sites especially when it comes to local area
>>>>> forecasts.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most of the ground observations are done by automatic sites these days!
>>>
>>> Yes I know and they can give accurate readings of air temperature,
>>> humidity/dew point , atmospheric pressure, rainfall, wind speed plus any other
>>> data not needing human interaction. Automatically reporting visibility and
>>> cloud data must be more difficult though.
>>>
>>
>> Visibility is fairly easy, IIRC it is done by measuring the drop in
>> intensity of a light beam over a measured distance.
> 
> I wonder if it can distinguish smoke or other pollutants from water
> droplets in mist/fog/rain etc.

Possibly, the dispersal pattens would be different.

> 
>> Full disclosure: my father was a meteorologist and his last job before
>> he retired was organising the setting up of automatic weather stations
>> round the world.
> 
> Years ago I bought a cheap PWS but it got wrecked in a gale!
> 

Hopefully not one of his :-)
-- 
Graeme Wall
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    Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-25 07:55 +0000
      Re: Illegal weather forecast website? John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-10-26 07:59 +0000
        Re: Illegal weather forecast website? "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-26 08:13 +0000
      Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:22 +0000
    Re: Illegal weather forecast website? liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-25 09:30 +0100
      Re: Illegal weather forecast website? "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-25 12:06 +0100
  Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 08:06 +0000
    Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-10-26 10:23 +0000
      Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 21:05 +0000
  Re: Illegal weather forecast website? liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-10-27 08:44 +0000
    Re: Illegal weather forecast website? RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2025-10-27 09:27 +0000
      Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 11:28 +0000
        Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-28 11:41 +0000
          Re: Illegal weather forecast website? "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-28 14:02 +0000
          Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2025-10-28 14:55 +0000
            Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-28 15:01 +0000
              Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2025-10-29 08:11 +0000
                Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:30 +0000
                Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2025-10-29 13:02 +0000
                Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-29 14:33 +0000
        Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Andy H <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2025-10-29 22:44 +0000
          Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2025-10-30 07:38 +0000
            Re: Illegal weather forecast website? Andy H <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2025-10-31 06:41 +0000

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