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Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456]

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456]
Date 2025-10-16 14:37 +0000
Organization NOYB
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In alt.comp.os.windows-11 Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 11:06:50 -0000 (UTC), Marion <marionf@fact.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >Today, October 15th, 2025, I am no longer getting Windows 10 updates. 
> >
> >Any ideas for me, and for anyone in the same situation who does NOT wish to
> >create a privacy-robbing MSA account, or, if it's a must, then how best to
> >creatre that privacy-robbing MSA account with the least loss of privacy?
> 
> While I'm not so concerned with privacy, I do have some questions
> about Microsoft accounts, which seem to be compulsory with the latest
> versions of Windows 11.

  It is still possible to have a local account on Windows 11. The tricks
to get one change over time. *If* Microsoft ever closes all doors, you
can install Windows 11 with a Microsoft Account and after installation
convert that account back to a local account.

  Bottom line: No problem.

> I am wary about backing up stuff on OneDrive, because of Microsofts
> predilection for making new versions incompatible with older ones. If
> I back up on OneDrive, who's to say a future update won't make it
> inaccessible to me?

  Then don't backup to OneDrive. I don't. Anyway, the default free
OneDrive is only 5GB, way too little for most people.

> That happened with DropBox, Sounded like a good idea, so I started
> using it to sync files between my desktop and my laptop and my wife's
> laptop. But then along came an update, and it stopped working on my
> desktop. For a while I got around that by syncing using a flash drive,
> and backing up to dropbox from the laptop. But another update might
> knock that out too. 
> 
> And if it happens with DropBox, it's also likely to happen with
> OneDrive and GoogleDrive and so on. 
> 
> And there's this story that you've got to be online to install Windows
> 11 properly.

  See above. Mostly FUD, but if you don't want to use the tricks, yes
you need to be online during install (unless you have Windows Pro).

>	       Does that mean you always have to be online to use it? If
> I take my laptop to the archives to record my research, and they don't
> have public wi-fi, does that mean I won't be able to use my laptop at
> all?

  No of course you don't have to be online to use it (Windows 11). FYI,
I use my Windows 11 laptop in outback Australia where there *is no*
Internet, full stop (except pay-through-the-nose satellite Internet).
That's the whole point of a laptop, that you can use it everywhere, with
or without Internet.

[More of the same deleted.]

> To put it simply and broadly, does having a Microsoft account in
> effect turn your computer into a dumb terminal rather than a PC?

  No, it doesn't. It basically doesn't change much, but it's of course
easier for Microsoft to get information about/from you, especially if
you answer yes to all the questions you get and will get.

  Bottom line: Don't worry about a Microsoft Account. If you don't mind
or want one, fine. If you (like me) don't want one, fine as well.

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October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-15 11:06 +0000
  Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 07:16 -0400
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-15 19:13 +0000
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 23:26 +0200
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 06:30 +0000
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 09:04 +0000
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 10:30 +0000
              Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 13:08 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-10-18 12:16 -0700
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 21:01 +0000
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 23:29 +0200
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 22:11 +0000
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-18 17:21 -0500
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-19 00:25 +0000
  Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2025-10-15 15:08 -0700
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-10-15 18:44 -0400
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [1 john@jeason.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) - 2025-10-16 00:47 +0100
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [1 "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 03:00 -0400
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [1 Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 10:08 +0000
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [1 "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:56 -0400
              Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [1 Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-17 01:22 +0000
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [1 "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-16 20:29 +0200
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 06:58 +0000
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-16 03:35 -0400
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 07:58 +0000
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-15 18:37 -0500
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 06:44 +0000
  Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-10-16 03:07 +0200
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-15 22:01 -0400
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 02:58 -0400
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 23:54 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Flash Drive <Flash.Drive@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-16 04:41 +0000
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 07:39 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 02:20 -0400
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 08:11 +0000
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-10-16 11:44 +0100
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 14:13 +0000
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-10-16 23:34 +0100
              Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-17 01:46 +0000
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 20:21 +0000
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-10-19 02:00 +0100
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-19 02:09 +0000
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:48 -0400
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-17 14:02 +0000
              Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-10-18 02:03 -0400
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-10-18 12:09 +0200
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-18 07:53 -0400
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-10-18 11:08 -0400
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 21:25 +0000
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-10-19 03:01 +0100
              Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-19 02:18 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-16 14:37 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:52 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-10-20 19:11 -0700
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-10-22 04:07 +0200
  Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-16 20:30 +0200
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-16 16:11 -0400
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-16 22:30 +0000
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2025-10-17 11:45 -0700
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 21:39 +0000
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-17 17:51 +0000
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-18 00:05 -0400
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-18 15:43 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-17 14:11 +0000
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:38 +0200
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-18 19:18 +0000
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 20:54 +0000
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-19 12:40 +0000
              Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-19 17:36 +0000
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 20:35 +0200
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-20 21:05 +1100
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <mariona@fact.com> - 2025-10-20 18:00 +0000
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-20 14:08 -0500
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <mariona@fact.com> - 2025-10-20 17:17 -0700
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-20 21:11 -0500
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <mariona@fact.com> - 2025-10-20 17:53 +0000
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-19 15:20 +0200
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-19 17:51 +0000
              Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-20 21:10 +1100
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 13:40 +0200
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-20 23:09 +1100
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 14:16 +0200
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-20 13:38 +0000
                Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <mariona@fact.com> - 2025-10-20 17:46 +0000
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 20:54 +0000
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-10-17 19:26 +0000
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-18 00:53 -0400
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 22:24 +0000
      Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:38 +0200
        Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:07 +0000
          Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 23:06 +0200
            Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-19 01:44 +0000
  Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-10-18 00:53 +0800
  Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> - 2025-10-18 19:49 +0200
    Re: October 15, 2025 Your version of windows has reached the end of support [19045.6456] Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-18 22:32 +0000

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