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Fuck Around and Find Out : SWI-Prolog Forum [Newline FAFO] (Was: ANN: Go Fund Me for ISO Core Standard of Prolog)

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Hi,

How it started:

@jp-diegidio started obstructing my posts on
SWI-Prolog discourse forum, where I proposed
solutions to the new line problem, detailed
the quirks of Python universal newline.

How its going:

EricGT morons and other ban me from the
SWI-Prolog discourse forum on pretense of
aggressive behaviour. Still SWI-Prolog is
stuck with a brittle stream subsystem:

Random colorized code looks nice but isn’t helpful
@jp-diegidio: with a sole CR at the end
https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/random-colorized-code-looks-nice-
but-isnt-helpful/9347

"a sole CR" is exactly the newline case
that SWI-Prolog cannot handle well automatically.
How do we call this, FAFO, Fuck Around and Find Out?

F around and Find Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOPZuXh-f5M

With morons on board like @jp-diegidio and
EricGT things only slow down, and will not
be fixed in due time.

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> We are happy to announce:
> 
> Go Fund Me for ISO Core Standard of Prolog
> ===========================================
> 
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> 
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> P.S.: This Go Fund Me is not affiliated with
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> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Dialect modules requires that you have a
>> SuperProlog, that can manage different dialects.
>> Currenty SuperPrologs are mostly ModulePrologs
>> that just swap in additional predicate definitions,
>>
>> also allow overwriting their own predicate
>> definitions locally, in favor of some dialect
>> predicate definition. And so own etc etc, I don't
>> know how successful this approach, it might
>>
>> then also require that set_prolog_flag/2 can work
>> module locally, that you can do set_prolog_flag(
>> double_quotes, chars) to have a Scryer, Trealla,
>> etc. dialect, and set_prolog_flag(double_codes,
>>
>> string) to have some SWI dialect, or
>> set_prolog_flag(double_codes, codes) to have
>> some ISO defaults dialect. For example an ISO dialect
>> might have this definition in their commons module:
>>
>> false :- fail.
>>
>> Since the Corrigendum 2 came rather later, so
>> some Prolog might have missed it, or balantly ignore
>> it. The Corrigendum 2 came 2012, but the ISO
>> standard was from 1995. Thats a gap
>>
>> of almost 20 years. Quite amazing nonsense.
>>

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