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Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G

From -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G
Date 2025-10-09 15:23 -0400
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On 10/9/25 07:21, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 10/7/2025 11:12 AM, -hh wrote:
>> On 10/7/25 04:31, David B. wrote:
>>> On 06/10/2025 22:07, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a 6 
>>>> figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
>>>
>>> Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+? 
>>
>> That's what he'd like to believe, isn't it?
>>
>> Of course, "six digits" could also have been #1,234.56
>>
>> Plus even if it was $100K, over what period of time?  It is far less 
>> impressive if it was for a project which spanned over 3-4 years.
>>
>> Similarly, with what non-labor expenses:  when it includes travel, 
>> such as to inspect manufacturing sites, it can easily run $5K a pop or 
>> more for international; just five such trips consumes 25% of a $100K 
>> budget.
>>
>> And so on.  Point is that when someone cherry-picks their bravado 
>> claims to resist the temptation to fill in their missing gaps, since 
>> those gaps invariably exist to filled in by readers with assumptions, 
>> not facts.
>>
>>
>>>> My desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160 HD. The Apple 
>>>> display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
>>>
>>> Apologies. I've no doubt your 27 inch screen is also great for 
>>> viewing images. 
>>
>> Probably most 27" 4K screens today will do a fine job; the Devil in 
>> the Details probably falls to other aspects of a third party display 
>> beyond jut the image, such as if Apple's keyboard controls work 
>> correctly for brightness & sound, if there's integrated speakers, 
>> camera, etc.
>
> 
> They were all over $100k. Yes, they all spanned several years, ...

David, here's a good example of how there's more details beyond the 
original cherrypicked brags.

FYI, Tommy invariably whines when I paramaterize from his claims, but to 
illustrate, his above statement is suggesting that the only times that 
there were any consultant contract of $100K or more was when it was 
multi-year.

Thus, taking his "over $100K" claim as $120K and 3 years for "several" 
claim, then what appears to be likely typical is in the ballpark of: 
$120K/3 = $40K/year gross...

...but note a couple of things.


> ... the 
> wheels of justice move slowly. There was very limited travel for these 
> three, all short domestic trips. I do not have detailed P&L by project, 
> but the business earned a 92% gross margin over its lifetime. 

Where "these three" appears to be stating that there's only been three 
large projects:  TE: "But two legal cases went over $100k. Another was 
about $80k."

...but didn't he just claimed that the multi-years were "all over 
$100K"?  Well, I guess in Tommy Math that $80K is more than $100K. /s

In any event, these numbers are his self-employed level gross before 
overhead expenses, such as Social Security & Medicare.  For a 
self-employed, the business has to pay the same as employee, which is 
7.65% ... and that's nearly all of his "92% gross margin" claim.  Before 
the employee's SS/Med, above $40K SWAG drops to an employee gross of no 
more than ~$37K/year just from this one gross-to-net adjustment. 
There's others possible too, such as employer contributions to a 401(k).

In any event, with the rest being smaller than apparently $80K over his 
"2002-2023" twenty two year working period, which at his present age of 
79, covers working years from age 56 to age 77, and all together he 
humble-bragged "The total revenue was well over $1 million."

Since he would have bragged $2M had it exceeded $2M, this has bracketed 
the total possible between $1M and $1.9999M.  Taking off 8% for his 
employer overhead and dividing by 22 years, the lower & upper limits on 
his claim are $41.8K to $83.6K ... and YMMV on if that is good or bad, 
but with the context that national median for PhD holders is around 
$100K/yr, even the $83K for the $1.9999M best case doesn't seem like 
he's been crushing it.

> That 
> includes international trips to Europe (1), Canada (1), Australia (1) 
> and Latin America (3). Yes, a few international travel expenses were 
> paid direct by the customer and are not included in the costs.

(8% - 7.65%) * $1M = $3500; for $2M = $7000.  The claimed 8% total 
overhead budget doesn't appear to have enough bananas to cover more than 
one or two such trips, let alone five.


-hh

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Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-02 09:59 -0400
  Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-10-03 01:19 +0000
    Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-10-02 18:48 -0700
      Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-03 18:23 -0400
    Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-03 18:09 -0400
      Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-03 23:48 +0100
        Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 07:32 -0400
          Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 17:25 +0100
            Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 17:07 -0400
              Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-10-06 16:57 -0700
              Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-07 09:31 +0100
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-07 08:49 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-07 08:50 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-10-07 11:12 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-09 07:21 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-10-09 15:23 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-09 22:20 +0100
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-10-09 18:10 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-09 23:30 +0100
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 20:06 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-10-21 09:07 +0200
          Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-10-04 11:21 -0700
        Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-10-05 14:08 -0400
          Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-05 19:52 +0100
            Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-10-05 15:48 -0400
              Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-05 23:01 +0100
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-10-06 14:00 -0400
                Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-10-06 20:12 +0100
              Re: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 17:09 -0400

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