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USA domestic chips for the never ending crunch (Re: Lets compare AI data centers )

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject USA domestic chips for the never ending crunch (Re: Lets compare AI data centers )
Date 2025-10-05 01:18 +0200
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Hi,

So the Tibetan lamasery had it right,
the lights go out. There is a never ending
hunger for crunch? Even requiring USA

to go into domestic chip production:

America’s Most Advanced Chip Factory Yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VX3jNJmbcI

But chip production etc.. (embodied energy) is
only a fraction of the energy consumption:

 > Operational energy (running the data center
 > for 1 year at 1 GW) = 8,760 TWh Hardware
 > manufacturing energy = 0.75 TWh
 > So the energy to produce the hardware is
 > roughly 0.0085 (or 0.85%) of the annual
 > operational energy.

What are the projections? By 2030, global
power demand for data centers is projected to
reach approximately 220 GW, underscoring the

urgency and strategic importance of securing
power and hardware capacity:

$100B Bet on 10GW AI Infrastructure
https://51ai.substack.com/p/openai-nvidia-100b-bet-on-10gw-ai

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Interestingly there is also now a top-ten
> for AI data centers, not only super computers.
> We are talking about newly built AI data centers
> 
> that for the first time go into giga watts:
> 
> The New World’s Largest AI Supercluster
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI
> 
> Some confirmed picks:
> 
> xAI Colossus Memphis
> Phase 1    100000    xAI    U.S.    Confirmed
> Tesla Cortex Phase 1    50000    Tesla    U.S.    Confirmed
> Lawrence Livermore NL
> El Capitan Phase 2    44143    U.S. Department of
> Energy    U.S.    Confirmed
> Anonymized Chinese
> System    30000    N/A    China    Confirmed
> Meta GenAI 2024a    24576    Meta AI    U.S.    Confirmed
> Meta GenAI 2024b    24576    Meta AI    U.S.    Confirmed
> Jupiter, Jülich    23536    EuroHPC JU,
> Jülich Supercomputing
> Center    Germany    Confirmed
> Anonymized Chinese
> System    20000    N/A    China    Confirmed
> Anonymized Chinese
> System    20000    N/A    China    Confirmed
> 
> https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-supercomputers/ 
> 
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>
>> In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
>> list all of the names of God. They believe
>> the Universe was created for this purpose,
>> and that once this naming is completed, God
>> will bring the Universe to an end. Three
>>
>> centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
>> in which they calculated they could encode
>> all the possible names of God, numbering
>> about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
>> each having no more than nine characters.
>>
>> riting the names out by hand, as they had
>> been doing, even after eliminating various
>> nonsense combinations, would take another
>> 15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
>> technology to finish this task in 100 days.
>>
>> They rent a computer capable of printing all
>> the possible permutations, and hire two
>> Westerners to install and program the machine.
>> The computer operators are skeptical but
>> play along. After three months, as the job
>>
>> nears completion, they fear that the monks
>> will blame the computer (and, by extension,
>> its operators) when nothing happens. The
>> Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
>> scheduled departure without warning the monks,
>>
>> so that it will complete its final print run
>> shortly after they leave. On their way to the
>> airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
>> a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
>> just about the time that the monks are pasting
>>
>> the final printed names into their holy books.
>> Then they notice that "overhead, without any
>> fuss, the stars were going out."
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
> 

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