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Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile, iphone
Subject Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality
Date 2025-09-06 01:22 +0000
Organization BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com)
Message-ID <109g2d2$5sj$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> (permalink)
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 00:28:54 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote :


> On 9/5/25 4:05 PM, Gabriel Coan wrote:
> 
>>I think it's entirely my prerogative what I install. Having sideloading 
>>disabled by default I understand, but completely refusing to allow the 
>>user to choose to enable it is quite frankly ridiculous in my opinion.
> 
> Get an Amazon Fire Tablet. I'm posting this with one. It lets me sideload
>  anything from anywhere. Course its older Android fork won't run everything
>  new but that's not been a big problem for me. I can usually find a
>  workaround. And it runs some of my older stuff that newer Android won't
>  (like my old Groundhog newsreader). I sideloaded the Play Store so it plus
>  the Amazon Appstore have apps aplenty to choose from. Just hoping that
>  Amazon doesn't take Google's lead and screw things up...

Hi AJL,

One of the problems is that Google is preventing us from building an APK
without each and every one of us registering ourselves as real developers.

As you know, I wrote a tutorial on c.m.a. recently for building an APK from
source code, where I just looked up Groundhog and apparently it's open src.
 From: Marion <marion@facts.com>
 alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-11
 Subject: Tutorial: Build your first Android APK on Windows from Github
 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 09:23:09 -0000 (UTC)
 Message-ID: <108c19t$1o40$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Based on a search result run just now, apparently the Groundhog Usenet
newsreader for Android was released under the GPL open source license and
its full source code is publicly available. The author, Juan J. Sanchez
(juanjux), published it on GitHub and stated that anyone is free to fork
and continue development. This means we can legally download the code, open
it in Android Studio or another Java/Android build environment, and compile
your own APK using the methods outlined in my recent tutorial.

Based on my quick search results, there are no official prebuilt releases
from the original repository. The codebase is said to be from around 2010,
so we may need to update project files, Gradle settings, and Android SDK
targets to build it on modern tools. It is also described as written almost
entirely in Java, with no proprietary dependencies beyond standard Android
libraries and a few bundled open source components. 

The repository is here: <https://github.com/juanjux/groundhog>

The main point is that while we can build an APK from source today, Google
is trying to make that impossible - which is simply too much like what
Apple does for me to handle it well.

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Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 03:32 +0000
  Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-08-26 05:55 +0000
    Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 07:11 +0000
      Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-08-26 09:03 -0700
        Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-01 02:07 +0000
          Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-08-31 22:11 -0700
  Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-08-31 14:44 -0400
    Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-31 22:35 +0200
      Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-08-31 21:00 -0400
        Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-01 06:13 +0000
          Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-09-01 03:59 -0400
            Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-01 08:28 -0700
              Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-01 17:47 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-01 10:22 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-01 20:17 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-09-02 18:27 -0400
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-02 22:37 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-02 17:53 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 05:39 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 00:05 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 16:18 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 11:37 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 21:02 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 15:36 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-09-04 15:17 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-05 01:06 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-03 08:23 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 00:05 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-03 10:23 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 08:21 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-03 18:33 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 11:37 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-03 22:18 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 15:36 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-04 08:06 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-04 07:17 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-04 09:31 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-04 09:17 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-03 21:10 +0100
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-03 15:36 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-04 12:25 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-04 09:17 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-04 18:27 +0200
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-04 17:33 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-04 12:12 +0100
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-04 09:17 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-05 01:20 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-05 08:40 +0100
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-05 09:47 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-05 16:57 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-15 18:12 +0100
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-09-05 19:08 -0400
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-06 01:14 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-09-06 20:59 -0400
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-09-05 19:05 -0400
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-06 00:28 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-06 01:22 +0000
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-05 20:16 -0700
                Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-06 18:04 +0000
    Re: Google getting more and more like iOS in term of lost functionality AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-09-01 01:33 +0000

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