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Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop
Date	2025-09-04 12:00 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On Thu, 9/4/2025 8:48 AM, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 12:33:55 -0500, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
> 
>> It depends on what you expect the graphics program to do.
>> I use GIMP, MS Paint ripped out of W7, or Irfan several times per week 
>> for work related graphics.
> 
> Paint is still available under W10 and W11. (Or am I missing something?
> It's on my W11.)
> 

There are different kinds of photo editors, so they don't
all have the same "focus" on things you might want to do.
SuperPaint for example, supported pixmap and vector artworks,
although the handling of grid alignment back then was dreadful.
That was part of our workflow, before we got real DTP tools
(drawing tool right in document editor!).

While GIMP is under constant development, I use an older
version because the palettes, I'm used to the older version
now, and the behaviors of the new tool versions annoy me. I use GIMP 2.6.8
for cropping and sharpening. To scale an image, I use "lanczos3"
as the pixel treatment method (handles jaggies a bit better).

If you look at my diagrams, you can tell by looking at them,
my editing tool is not all that sophisticated. The works
someone with Photoshop would produce (some of the special
effects), would likely stand out if I was "renting" a modern
software. For example, you can start with a family shot, and
"remove" dad from the photo. And it papers over the raw edges
of the edit for you. In the old days, you might use freeform
selection tool to select damaged areas and mess them about,
and fixing such an edit manually that way could take hours.
I have also used a DNN tool (took about a day to make it run),
that can remove a vertical human from a photo. Tools like that
are immature versions of the same thing in Photoshop.

But the tool is complicated enough, you can take courses on how
to use it. Such courses are to better prepare professionals
for daily working with such things. The courses are not
particularly for casual users (maybe you need to learn how
to handle four color separations for printing). And perhaps
that's Why there is the Elements version.

   Paul

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OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-09-03 14:47 +0200
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-09-03 09:16 -0400
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-09-03 09:19 -0400
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop invalid  <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:23 +0000
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-04 03:14 +0100
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-09-04 09:37 +0100
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:26 -0400
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:29 -0400
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 17:40 +0000
        Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2025-09-04 15:23 +0100
          Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-05 02:45 +0000
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-04 03:17 +0100
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:53 +0100
      Identifying people in pictures Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-04 14:18 +0100
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-04 11:47 -0400
        Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-09-04 22:40 +0100
          Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-05 03:30 -0400
          Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-05 13:47 +0100
            Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:27 +0100
              Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-06 08:45 -0400
                Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-09-06 17:51 +0100
                Photo Management (Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-09-12 13:30 +0000
              Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-06 09:34 -0400
              Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-06 16:15 +0100
                Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-09-06 16:31 +0100
                Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-06 20:11 +0100
                Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-06 15:30 -0400
          Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-09-06 15:27 +0200
            Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-09-06 15:42 +0100
              Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-09-06 18:31 +0200
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-09-03 12:33 -0500
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-09-04 14:48 +0200
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:00 -0400
        Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-04 12:58 -0400
          Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-04 13:56 -0400
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-09-04 12:06 -0500
        Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-04 13:41 -0400
        Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-09-04 20:18 +0200
          Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-09-04 15:32 -0500
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-03 14:34 -0400
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-09-03 20:40 +0200
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 20:58 +0000
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-03 19:10 -0400
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-09-04 20:20 +0200
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-09-04 09:45 +0100
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-09-03 15:57 -0400
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop invalid <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 21:14 +0000
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-04 06:54 +0000
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 21:19 +0000
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-09-04 11:39 +0100
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:37 -0700
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:17 -0500
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.com> - 2025-09-04 00:55 +0100
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-04 02:56 +0100
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-04 06:39 +0000
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> - 2025-09-04 09:24 -0500
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:17 +0200
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop George <hgrikmnhb@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 20:56 +0000
      Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-06 18:09 -0500
    Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-09-07 09:32 +0200
  Re: OT: Replacement for Adobe Photoshop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-09-05 19:41 +0200

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