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Re: YouTube : "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot"??

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.software.firefox
Subject Re: YouTube : "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot"??
Date 2025-08-24 18:19 +0000
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:04:34 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote :


>  The truth is you never get what you pay for. 
>>  a. You get what you get (which you need to understand what it is).
>>  b. And the dumber you are, the more you will pay for it.
> 
> ... and b is true, and the latter part of a. But there is in _some_
> cases some truth in the old saying. An approximation that works a lot of
> the time (nothing beats proper research, but if you're in a hurry) is to
> assume it's rubbish if there is heavy marketing of the more expensive
> product. But remember, in most cases it costs more to _make_ a better
> product (whether a cookie/biscuit or a piece of software), so it is
> reasonable to assume that will be reflected in the price - _unless_
> there is marketing that has to be paid for.

Yes, but is a diamond-encrusted Rolex really a better watch than a Timex?
What matters most is how well it tells time - and the Timex wins that spec.

People let marketing tell them what matters, e.g., some people actually buy
a RED!!!!!!!!!! iPhone, which, let's face it, isn't better than black ones.

Marketing's job is to differentiate the product. Any way they can.
Generally, almost all products are commodities. 
If not commodities, then they're differentiated by specs.

But you have to know what "spec" matters.

For example, on a battery, the spec is the "juice" that it outputs.
Not the warranty.

The warranty is a marketing gimmick.
Much like biometrics are on mobile devices.

I'm on a lot of tech forums, where, for example, people think that whatever
marketing people advertise, "must" be true, e.g., a battery with a 2-year
warranty must be better (and more expensive) than one with no warranty.

A "blue" coolant for European cars must be better than the "pink" for
Japanese or the "green" for American cars. If they put a spec of sand in a
brake pad versus a spec of copper, then it immediately becomes a fancy
ceramic pad versus a metallic pad (both versus non-asbestos organic), when
what really matters is the cold/hot friction rating which is required, by
law, to be printed on every package in the USA for brake pads.

But even the car parts guys don't understand friction coefficients (even as
that's what brake pads do!) so everyone talks about the absurd meaningless
perceived (yet imaginary) differences between metallic & ceramic & organic.

Everyone is desperate for a number line to make decisions and MARKETING is
always glad to hand you a "good/better/best" number line.

But what really matters in good/better/best is the specifications.
But most people can't handle the fact that things have specs.

Which, is why, as I noted, that people think that the number line of
premium gas being fifty cents more expensive means that it's better.

And yet, it's not.
It's worse (for most engines).

But not measurably worse.
Still, the fifty cents per gallon uptick is a waste of money.

Because it's not better at all.
Which is my point.

The less someone knows about a product, the more they succumb to marketing.

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