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Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality

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On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 13:30:32 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Qihe wrote :


>> [...] the most important of
>> Google packages which needs to be replaced, IMHO, for better privacy.
>> 
> You're right. It comes with several trackers embedded.
> 
>>
>> 
>> The danger isn't inherent to microG itself though. The danger, as I
>> understand it, is that removing a core system package without the OS being
>> prepared for it can break the device.
>> 
> You're right, I did it so (on a huawei device) and it was a great
>  mistake that I wish to solve doing a firmware update in safe mode
>  ...if I just get the right file to upload (customer care doesn't
>  help at all).
> 
>> However, it can be done in certain sandboxed environments (e.g.,
>> Shelter/Island) or on devices without Play Services (Huawei, some
>> de-Googled ROMs). I've tried them myself, but so far I've failed.
>> 
> Huawei? Their magic os doesn't like  google play services removal.
> 
>> 
>> However, replacing Play Services entirely only works safely on ROMs built
>> for signature spoofing or with a spoofing patch applied. On non-rooted
>> Android like mine is, this is not supported.
>> 
> Do you mean that updating a spoofing patch  on a non-rooted magic
>  os won't work?

Yes. Apparently on Huawei's MagicOS (or similar non-rooted Android systems)
applying a spoofing patch isn't feasible. AFAIK, signature spoofing
typically requires root access or a custom ROM that explicitly supports it
(like /e/, LineageOS with microG, or CalyxOS). Without that, the system
won't allow apps like microG to impersonate Google Play Services, which is
essential for compatibility with many apps.

In your case where you apparently removed Play Services and are facing
issues, a firmware update might help restore stability - but as you said,
getting the right file from Huawei can be a challenge. If you're stuck, you
might consider checking XDA forums or community-maintained repositories for
your device model. Just be cautious with unofficial firmware to avoid
bricking the device. I bricked two Samsungs before I gave up rooting them.

Also, if you're experimenting with sandboxing tools like Shelter or Island,
they can help isolate apps from trackers, but they won't replace Play
Services functionality. They're more about privacy compartmentalization
than full de-Googling. Again, I tried this, and mostly failed at it.

Sigh.

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Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-22 20:07 +0000
  Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-08-22 21:29 +0000
    Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 07:02 +0000
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        Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-09-05 18:28 +0000
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  Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 01:04 +0200
    Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-23 02:28 +0000
      Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-23 09:26 +0000
        Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 12:37 +0200
          Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-23 16:49 +0000
            Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-23 17:55 +0000
      Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 13:30 +0200
        Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 03:50 +0000
          Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 01:43 +0200
            Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 03:42 +0000
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    Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 03:28 +0000
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  Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-08-26 13:06 +0200
    Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-27 05:28 +0000
      Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-08-29 18:51 +0200
        Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-31 10:35 +0000
          Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-01 10:48 +0200
            Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-01 16:24 +0000
              Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-06 15:15 +0200
                Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-06 18:07 +0000
    Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 16:05 +0200
      Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-01 15:27 +0100
        Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 16:44 +0200
  Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 16:14 +0200
  Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 08:09 +0000
    Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:13 +0200
    Re: Best 1:1 google app replacements with privacy & functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-02 15:46 +0000

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