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Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality?

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality?
Date 2025-07-30 07:42 +0000
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 00:59:30 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


> MAGA Troll indeed.   Make Android Good Anywayhecan.

I study you Apple MAGA trolls. And I study Apple's strategy.

Specifically Apple's strategy of removing pockets from pants & then
convincing people like you that it's "progress" to remove pockets (at the
same time Apple sells you their proprietary replacement for the missing
functionality).

How does Apple get away with convincing you that pants without pockets are
somehow progress - where you're forced to buy the lost functionality back?

Apple doesn't just sell tech - it sells belief. And belief is powerful
enough to override inconvenience, cost, and even common sense.

Here's why people like you MAGA trolls don't comprehend the deception:

Marketing is myth making. Apple frames the removal of most basic hardware
functionality removals as "progress." No headphone jack? That's "courage."
No charger in the box? That's "environmental responsibility." These aren't
just excuses - they're Apple's trademarked narratives that make you MAGA
trolls feel like they're part of something visionary.

Tribe loyalty is at stake here. You MAGA trolls often form a kind of brand
identity. Once you're in the ecosystem, questioning Apple feels like
questioning your own taste or values. That's not deception; it's emotional
engineering.

And then there's design over function where Apple's aesthetic minimalism
convinces people like you that fewer ports means more elegance. Even if it
means buying dongles, adapters, or wireless accessories, the sleek look
wins in your mind because Apple has convinced you that less is more.

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Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-23 01:09 +0000
  Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-22 18:41 -0700
  Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 03:03 +0000
    Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-23 03:28 +0000
      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-23 15:32 +0000
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-23 20:24 +0000
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-23 13:54 -0700
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-23 21:47 +0000
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-23 23:19 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-23 16:25 -0700
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-23 23:55 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:28 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-24 00:32 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:34 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-24 14:10 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 16:00 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-24 19:34 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 21:22 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-25 14:37 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-25 21:37 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-25 22:07 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 01:59 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 18:22 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-24 01:13 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 15:59 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-24 13:46 +1200
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 15:58 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-24 15:20 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-24 13:05 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 21:22 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-25 07:00 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-25 21:36 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-25 17:41 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-26 10:31 +1200
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 01:58 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 19:37 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 01:59 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 01:58 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-27 06:44 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-27 17:19 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-28 09:00 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 17:37 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-25 20:53 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 01:57 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 19:36 -0700
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:07 -0400
                Re: Why is Android still carrying the baggage of non-industry standard, legacy hardware? (was: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality?) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-29 21:09 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-29 15:48 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-30 00:55 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-30 07:23 +0000
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-23 23:24 +0000
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:25 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-24 00:30 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:34 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-24 14:09 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 15:09 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-24 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 21:21 +0000
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 01:57 +0000
    Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-22 20:48 -0700
    Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-23 20:29 -0400
      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:33 +0000
      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-24 13:35 +1200
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 15:10 +0000
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 11:32 -0400
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 21:21 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-24 14:47 -0700
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 22:24 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-24 19:54 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-25 08:32 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 09:26 -0700
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-24 13:27 -0400
    Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 10:39 -0400
      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
  Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-23 03:14 +0000
    Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-23 04:55 +0000
      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-22 22:30 -0700
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-23 23:08 +0000
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-24 11:26 +1200
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-23 23:59 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:24 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-23 18:18 -0700
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-24 13:43 +1200
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 15:07 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-24 13:34 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-25 08:48 +1200
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 21:21 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-24 14:48 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-25 06:51 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-07-25 16:20 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-26 10:35 +1200
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 18:21 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-24 23:29 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-25 18:16 +1200
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-25 08:32 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 09:31 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 09:01 -0400
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-30 07:34 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-31 09:46 -0700
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 01:57 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 19:35 -0700
  Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 08:59 -0400
    Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 18:43 +0000
      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-26 19:57 -0700
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:10 -0400
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-29 15:45 -0700
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:12 -0400
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:41 +0000
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:17 -0400
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-29 15:46 -0700
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-07-30 18:30 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-31 09:30 +1200
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-30 08:47 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-07-31 03:16 +1000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-30 19:18 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-07-31 09:14 +1000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-31 18:04 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-08-01 11:23 +1000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-01 15:18 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-08-02 01:28 +1000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-01 08:49 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-08-02 09:05 +1000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-01 16:08 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-01 16:32 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-08-02 09:07 +1000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-01 16:09 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-02 02:26 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-01 02:25 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-01 15:23 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-30 18:57 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-30 21:21 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-01 02:23 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-01 06:39 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-01 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-02 00:25 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-02 02:29 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-02 08:02 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-02 17:34 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-03 17:17 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-04 00:05 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 23:05 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-09 16:32 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-10 00:13 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 06:11 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-11 10:04 -0700
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-01 15:19 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-02 00:19 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-02 02:28 +0000
                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-02 17:33 +0000
      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 10:36 -0400
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:41 +0000
          Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-29 15:48 -0700
            Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-30 00:59 +0000
              Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-30 07:42 +0000
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                Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-31 09:47 -0700
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      Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-30 07:46 +0000
        Re: Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-31 09:47 -0700

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