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I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs])

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs])
Date 2025-07-28 17:18 +0200
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I guess your brain was "overheating".

LoL

The problem of L1, L2, L3, cache trashing through
writes,  is not overheating, but it gets awfully slow,
creating an overhead not overheating.

Cache trashing (or cache thrashing) in the context
of L1, L2, and L3 CPU caches is a performance issue,
not a thermal one.

Jordon Molokovsky schrieb:
> Mild Shock wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Assume that we live in a world where we have excess memory. So we can
>> afford stacks! And then make the crucial observation,
>>
>> we can use the stack of the Prolog engine,
>> no need to create an artificial stack in C,
>> or use the native stack of C.
>>
>> I guess SWI-Prolog has already groked the first we can "afford stacks".
>> But did anybody already grok the "100% Prolog" idea?
>>
>> Well we are not yet there 100% Prolog has still an overhead. Here is a
>> little test acyclic_term/2:
>>
>> /* SWI-Prolog 9.3.26, C Stacks and/or Agendas */ ?-
>> time((between(1,30,_), acyclic2, fail; true)).
>> % 330,150 inferences, 0.016 CPU in 0.023 seconds (69% CPU, 21129600
>> Lips) true.
> 
> you assume too much. The 'overheat' is merely based on the size of memory
> required, and the number of instructions sent to the CPU's decoder,
> together with data, occupying the bus, through the pipeline, ignoring the
> pipeline etc. Not directly related to time. And 'stacks' ARE memory, not
> something to 'afford as excess' fucking stoopid.
> 

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Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs] (Re: Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow!) Jordon Molokovsky <ovm@lorr.ru> - 2025-07-28 12:56 +0000
  I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 17:18 +0200
    Re: I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Emile Paduchev <mcc@clleeeme.ru> - 2025-07-28 15:53 +0000
      The difference is only in one letter "t" or "d" (Re: I guess your brain was "overheating") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 21:20 +0200
  Re: I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Alton Grammatakakis <kl@aaasi.gr> - 2025-07-28 16:09 +0000
    You literally wrote "overheat" (Re: I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 21:21 +0200
      Re: You literally wrote "overheat" (Re: I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Neury Valetov <ntt@uovrav.ru> - 2025-07-28 19:44 +0000
        Don't put large memory in your computer it might "overheat" (Was: You literally wrote "overheat") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-29 15:56 +0200
          Re: Don't put large memory in your computer it might "overheat" (Was: You literally wrote "overheat") Mizraim Zelenenkov <iall@zm.ru> - 2025-07-29 16:00 +0000
            Why Russ Bots Again: Micro Penis? (Re: Don't put large memory in your computer it might "overheat") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-29 23:17 +0200

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