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Re: (((4 * pi * (10^(-7)))^2) / 2)^pi = 9.5176229e-39

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fuller.david@hotmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:31:40 PM UTC-5, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:
>> The full equation for energy, and thereby the mass–energy equivalence,
>> that can be derived from the norm of the four-momentum is
>> 
>>   E = √((m c²)² + (p c)²)                                              
>>   (1)
> 
> Thanks for the Clarification, That is what I was Figuring ...
> I consider Space time ( the totality of)to be "Kinetic Energy"

You want to reconsider.  Spacetime is a mathematical framework for 
describing reality instead.  E is the energy of an object in spacetime — 
which does not need to move relative to the observer; p can be 0 and the 
object still has energy —, not the energy of spacetime itself.  In fact,
the total energy of the universe is very likely 0.

The relativistic kinetic energy of a rigid body is instead

  E_k = m γ c² – m c².

Note how with γ = 1∕√(1 – (v∕c)²) the kinetic energy of a rigid body *also* 
depends on the frame of reference as v is the speed of the object relative 
to the stationary observer, and that it becomes zero if m γ c² = m c²; that 
happens precisely when γ = 1 which requires that v = 0 (no relative motion).

See also:

<http://www.britannica.com/topic/Albert-Einstein-on-Space-Time-1987141>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy#Relativistic_kinetic_energy_of_rigid_bodies>

> […]
> Mass exists Precisely because of the Vacuum's Impedance to velocity.

That is such a nonsense, it is not even wrong.


PointedEars
-- 
Q: Why is electricity so dangerous?  
A: It doesn't conduct itself.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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(((4 * pi * (10^(-7)))^2) / 2)^pi = 9.5176229e-39 fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-26 20:34 -0700
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