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Is Mild Shock going rogue? (Was: Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow!)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Is Mild Shock going rogue? (Was: Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow!)
Date 2025-07-25 14:07 +0200
Message-ID <105vs19$2r1je$1@solani.org> (permalink)
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Hi,

Is Mild Shock going rogue? Not really,
I am only amused that a couple of academic
frauds like these here:

- Bart Demoen

- Ulrich Neumerkel

- Paulo Moura

- Joseph Vidal-Rosset

Think they can oppress what they view a
non-academic. Its more explicit in what
Bart Demoen wrote back then, but more

implicit how the above morons act. For
example blocking me from all repesitory,
making it impossible for me to raise issues,

and strangly discussion by dogmatic nonsense,
doesn't increase the willingness of the
harassed person to share something:

What occurs-check optimizations is SWI Prolog using?
https://stackoverflow.com/a/65620337/17524790

Also that gists would be found on
archive.org is nonsense.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Having fun with Bisimulation, and a new test
> suite of nasty circular pairs. But how store
> circular pairs, if clauses do not support
> 
> circular terms. Well chop it up into equations,
> I create 1000 such equation pairs:
> 
> test([A = c(A, B), C = c(A, D), E = n, _ = c(F, B),
>        F = c(C, C), G = c(G, D), D = c(E, C), B = n],
>       [H = c(H, I), J = c(K, I), L = c(L, I), I = c(M, N),
>        O = c(K, J), N = n, K = c(K, J), M = c(K, O)]).
> Etc..
> 
> The pairs are nasty because the usual compare_with_stack/2
> chokes on them. Here some results:
> 
> /* SWI-Prolog 9.3.26 */
> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part, fail; true)).
> % 540,118 inferences, 0.047 CPU in 0.041 seconds (115% CPU, 11522517 Lips)
> true.
> 
> /* Trealla Prolog 2.78.40 */
> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part, fail; true)).
> % Time elapsed 0.113s, 1143903 Inferences, 10.157 MLips
>     true.
> 
> /* Scryer Prolog 0.9.4-417 */
> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part, fail; true)).
>     % CPU time: 0.226s, 1_117_809 inferences
>     true.
> 
> /* Dogelog Player 1.3.5 */
> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part2, fail; true)).
> % Zeit 309 ms, GC 0 ms, Lips 8693718, Uhr 25.07.2025 13:47
> true.
> 
> The amazing thing is, I compared a 100% Prolog
> implementation, so there is a lot of head room
> for improvement:
> 
> part2 :-
>     bitest(X,Y), X ~~ Y, fail; true.
> 
> The operator (~~)/2 is part of library(math),
> and has been implemented with same_term/2 so far.
> 
> Bye
> 

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