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Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)

From Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)
Date 2025-07-07 21:51 -0500
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On 7/7/25 7:55 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 7/7/25 6:58 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 7/7/25 6:01 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 7/7/25 4:16 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/25 7:56 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Iran's foreign ministry who a few months back had vetoed the 
>>>>> two-state solution for the problem of Israel in an important 
>>>>> regional gathering, today announced its own solution to the problem:
>>>>>
>>>>> Araghchi said, "Justice will get served best if a referendum is 
>>>>> performed in the entire region of Israel and Palestine, with all 
>>>>> people participating. Moslems, Jews, Christians, Arabs, Israelis, 
>>>>> Druze, everyone."
>>>>>
>>>>> He said South Africa also came up with the correct solution by such 
>>>>> a referendum, not by dividing the region into two states of Blacks 
>>>>> and Whites.
>>>>>
>>>>> He again emphasized that the two-state solution will not work. 
>>>>> Everybody should share that area in the region together.
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll see how this solution will get looked at by others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Israelis are saying that after this 12 day war the magnitude of 
>>>> Iran's 5th column in Israel has increased.
>>>>
>>>> This is yet another clue pointing to the success of Iranian's 
>>>> defenses in defeating Israelis, creating more hope among the dormant 
>>>> 5th column in Israel. They saw that there's something that can be 
>>>> done to Israel for its crimes, and they're all now for going for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Iran, immediately after the war, began working on creating - 
>>>> alongside missiles - an air defense that also involves fighter jets. 
>>>> This move by Iran's military (not the Militia) was already underway 
>>>> when Rowhani's admin took over, but they stopped it! When the 
>>>> military took the step of buying about 30 Chinese most modern (at 
>>>> the time) jet fighters, Rowhani's admin prevented it, saying "We 
>>>> must buy from France"!.. And that purchase of course never took place.
>>>>
>>>> This, so clearly, indicated some figures in Rowhani's admin were 
>>>> spying for France.
>>>>
>>>> Now after 10 years, why Iranians have not done anything about those 
>>>> motherfuckers it beats the hell out of me. They're still there each 
>>>> in the government somewhere getting paid for doing nothing good for 
>>>> Iran. Pezeshkiyan totally protects them from harm.
>>>>
>>>> But Pezeshkiyan's supporters are now seeing and thinking too, 
>>>> because they've begun to get bombed alongside the opponents of 
>>>> Pezeshkiyan exactly as the result.  So, now Iran has at last taken 
>>>> the first steps in continuing what the admin before Rowhani had 
>>>> started.
>>>>
>>>> Those Iranians who elected Pezeshkiyan, those who believed "freedom" 
>>>> is showing their naked asses in the streets, got educated by this 
>>>> war. They wore the formal women's dresses like others and joined 
>>>> others in protecting Iran.
>>>>
>>>> And Israeli Nazis are fingering themselves right now for that. They 
>>>> were under the impression that those in Iran who wanted to show 
>>>> their asses were the same as their 5th column. Heh.. very naive. 
>>>> Jews generally are novices in matters of politics. Throughout the 
>>>> history, they've never had the experience of running a country. So 
>>>> far, they think "politics" means lying..
>>>>
>>>> So Israelis were off about who Iranians are. Iranians, any faction 
>>>> of them included, spit on Nazis and mass murderers and criminals, 
>>>> and Israelis are Nazis in this day and age. Plust every one of them 
>>>> is a thief, and that's the only reason they're in Israel. They went 
>>>> there for looting peoples' properties of all sorts. And these coward 
>>>> Arabs gave them the worst habits, habits that now Iran has to pay to 
>>>> correct.
>>>>
>>>> So wise up, you motherfucker Nazis. Do that before Iran fucks you up 
>>>> this time for good. You have a "point of no return" there in your 
>>>> country. All Iran needs is to push you beyond that point. You'll 
>>>> collapse like a house of cards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As that Chinese "expert" (more like salesman) mentioned, the form of 
>>>> air defense Iran is seeking to add to missiles involves many other 
>>>> systems in addition to just a large fleet of modern fighter jets. 
>>>> All that has to be bought, learned, reverse engineered, improved, 
>>>> and manufactured in Iran. Iran as I've said here before, is not the 
>>>> Iran of Rowhani's time. So the plans and outlooks that those 
>>>> scientists had back then is now obsolete. It will take much less 
>>>> time now to get developed.
>>>>
>>>> Not only there's more knowledge, know-how, and experience, but the 
>>>> size of scientific community in Iran itself has dramatically 
>>>> increased. Iran of 10 years back compared to Iran of today, is 
>>>> something like Nepal is today compared to India as far as science 
>>>> and tech is concerned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A ship that sometime before had gone to a port in Israel without 
>>> obtaining Yemen's permission was attacked yesterday by Yemen with 
>>> suicide boats, drones, and a few ballistic missiles. It suffered 
>>> great damage and is now sinking :)
>>>
>>> They had ignored repeated requests from Yemen to inform what their 
>>> mission was. Yes, "was"! Hehe :)
>>>
>>> Yemen had mercy on the defiant crew and took them out of the sinking 
>>> ship.
>>>
>>>
>>> No sign of anything "Trump"-ordered there either :)
>>>
>>> So it is now starting to show its trend: If Israel attacks Yemen, 
>>> Yemen will sink a ship of theirs or their friends. Israel had 
>>> attacked a Yemeni airport earlier.
>>>
>>>
>>> A rumor following with a news clip showed up in the channels that one 
>>> of the clerics in Iran's Azerbaijan had placed a bounty on Trump's 
>>> head amounting to about $1.2 Million. The news said the bounty 
>>> specifically expresses that the "head" of Trump must be delivered to 
>>> that authority! Hahhahhahahhahh :-)
>>>
>>> But..
>>>
>>> Then a few hours later it turned out to be a fake news just to give 
>>> Trump a jolt in the ass :) The culprit in this was Iran Times which 
>>> is operated inside .., you guessed it right, USA! Hehe :)
>>>
>>> So some staff member in there must've been pretty pissed for some 
>>> reason. Could be that a relative or sibling of his or her were hurt 
>>> in the 12 day war.
>>>
>>> But they can get sued big time for that. So I wonder if this was an 
>>> Israeli job to get them sued and thrown under the buss.
>>>
>>> If Israelis were involved and the news outlet gets sued, Iran will be 
>>> able to help them with the information to prove who the real culprit 
>>> was. So .. we may not even get hear about this at all.
>>>
>>> But there's still a chance that this was not a lie.
>>>
>>> More about it here:
>>>
>>> https://ifpnews.com/iran-islamic-propagation-organization-bounty-trump/
>>>
>>> Trump's plans to travel around the world are screwed anyway. He 
>>> supports Israeli massacre of Ghazans which continues every day, and 
>>> that should be enough for this man to feel that moment may come. I 
>>> don't think there's a day he doesn't feel or think about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BRICS meeting is in its second day (in Brazil). 10 more countries 
>>> have just joined it:
>>>
>>> Belarus
>>> Bolivia
>>> GhazaGhestan
>>> Cuba
>>> Nigeria
>>> Malaysia
>>> Thailand
>>> Vietnam
>>> Uganda
>>> Ozbakestan
>>>
>>>
>>> It is growing! In every continent. Look at the list. This isn't a 
>>> joke. Trump's balls must be retracted now. Shriveled up in fear. The 
>>> ten countries didn't even give a fart to his threatening them with 
>>> 10% additional tariffs.
>>>
>>> Nature does it guys. Who can fight physics? Be Nazis, and wait till 
>>> your time comes. There are consequences for you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Reverse immigration is in full gear in Israel. People are leaving 
>>> Israel. A large number of agencies who always provided guidance and 
>>> facilities for Jews to immigrate into Israel, are now mainly active 
>>> emigrating them out.
>>>
>>> Such agencies are fiercely looking for areas and towns and spots 
>>> around the world to settle all these Israelis. The "departure" list 
>>> of flights have for some time been much longer than arrivals. What I 
>>> predicted in November of 2023 ensued almost right away. The good 
>>> families and individuals are leaving Israel.
>>>
>>> Only 17% of companies in Israel are still enjoying normal business. 
>>> This is from the horse's own mouth by the way. 36% of businesses made 
>>> only half the usual profit in the month of June. 22% lost 76% of 
>>> their normal profit.
>>>
>>> Under different categories, in food and beverage businesses, about 
>>> 65% of them lost 50% of their income. Only 7% of businesses in this 
>>> category continued with normal income.
>>>
>>> And Netanyahu is seeing Trump "to celebrate the victory" together.
>>>
>>> This time around, they say he didn't answer to a single question that 
>>> reporters asked him in the airport in USA. Had nothing to tell them!
>>>
>>> I think he is seeing Trump to tell him if he wants to break the back 
>>> of Iran he must be willing to do it himself, and that Israel cannot 
>>> do that.
>>>
>>> And I think USA will not do that either.
>>>
>>> So it will look like seeing eachother to "celebrate the defeat."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> One of the canine team of dogs used in Iran to find people trapped 
>> under the rubble got unfortunately killed by falling debris.  He was 
>> so good in doing his job that had worked internationally too! :-(
>>
>> These dogs have so far found and rescued 15 persons alive and 188 dead 
>> _after_ everything that men had done to find bodies. The news piece is 
>> saying following the end of this operation, a few of them will retire 
>> from this service. They're too old.
>>
>>
>> 9 American businesses that were still selling Yemen electronic 
>> products were sanctioned by Yemenis. No products from them will get 
>> inside Yemen anymore. These companies, Yemen said, are pro-Israel, and 
>> are: Motorola, GE, Apple, HP, DELL, Xerox, SanDisk, Braun, and Duracell.
>>
>> I think this belated move may have something to do with present BRICS 
>> gathering in Brazil. A few of the ten countries who were added to 
>> BRICS can provide Yemen with substitutes. Remember, no Dollar is 
>> transacted between these countries. So Yemen is already a tiny bit 
>> more independent than she was three days back :)
>>
>>
>> Some other "expert", this one an American ex-intelligence figure, is 
>> saying it is wrong to assume that Israel had much time and options to 
>> continue the war beyond 12 days. He says they only had three days left 
>> to run out of munitions for several forms of their defenses against 
>> missiles, while Iran had not even opened several of their missile 
>> silos across Iran.
>>
>> He mentioned a few obvious insights as well, like the fact that Iran 
>> is three times bigger than Ukraine in size and has 3 times the 
>> population of Ukraine, and Israelis hitting a few spots in Iran is 
>> like a mosquito stinging an elephant.
>>
>> I'm saying the above because Americans usually do not want to talk the 
>> obvious. Their whole system is based on keeping the Sheep as Sheep, 
>> and "cancel" the obvious truth, so to speak. They've been doing that 
>> for a long time now and have forgotten how things were before they 
>> ended up like this. And yet, it's always an old fart among them who 
>> still speaks of the obvious in the media.
>>
>> So when these old farts die and disappear, what's left is just pure 
>> Sheep, pure Nazis, and some 700 Billionaires. A new nation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Safavi (a top advisor to the Leader) said today something that requires 
> a bit of consideration :) Let Nazis read this then.
> 
> Hehe :)
> 
> He said just since the end of this 12 day war, Iran has built thousands 
> of new missiles and drones, and every one of them are kept in their 100% 
> secure locations across Iran.
> 
> He didn't say much more than that for obvious reasons. And of course he 
> said it to show even a stupid Nazi how futile it is to go conduct a war 
> with such a nation. This nation is in a fast transition too, mind you. 
> Iran is getting stronger, more independent, sure; but that's not all. 
> The speed with which she is changing is also changing. It's getting faster.
> 
> And faster.
> 
> I'm sure any groupie of my dick who reads this at least knows that 
> "more" and "faster" tell you of two entirely different realities. One 
> doesn't lead to the other. But together, it means disaster for Iran's 
> active enemies.
> 
> 
> Perhaps this is what Netanyahu there in White House is telling Trump, 
> cause it doesn't matter who says it. My dick, or Netanyahu's scared 
> mind. It is a reality independent of my dick or Netanyahu Nazis of this 
> world.
> 
> And perhaps this is why Safavi brought it up..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



Like in any other country, in Iran too, there is a population of 
underage kids who have fulltime jobs. This is unfortunate but is a 
reality. It is not new in Iran either, as for ages many families in 
major Iranian cities devoted one big room in their houses to weaving 
Persian Carpets. Most of the work in that tedious job was and is done by 
kids.

They don't say how many of these kids are working fulltime while they 
should be going to school and enjoy their lives. I've not seen such 
report, to be exact.

Today, some other statistics about them came out in a mini paper (by 
سازمان بهزیستی ). In reading it I noticed a deliberate attempt to hide 
the percentages for a certain category of reasons behind the issue. The 
poverty factor.

They don't seem to care to bring proof that there is a job 
discrimination for parents of these kids based on their citizenship. 
They say presently 60% of the kids are Iranian and 40% foreigners. But 
when it comes to poverty as the reason behind it, they always combine 
the percentages of poverty with other factors to hide the numbers for 
poverty as the cause.

For instance, paper says 74% of the total population of these kids work 
fulltime jobs only for two reasons: either both sides of their parents 
are addicts, or, what the father and mother both earn by no means can 
support their expenses..

So the reader is still left to wonder of this 74% what portion have 
addict parents and what portion poor parents.

I think they do not give out the total number of these kids, as well as 
specific numbers of them being there for poverty reasons, not just 
because it is illegal to allow underage kids work, but because perhaps 
they do not want to provide a way for the enemy to calculate the 
effectiveness of their using sanctions as weapon.

It is a war thing. Using sanctions is an act of war, and in a war, the 
victim tries to hide the effectiveness of enemy's weapons.

And this war, has thus affected the contents of papers as well.. They're 
not lying, but they're hiding some facts in subtle ways.

So 26% of the total population have other reasons to work fulltime jobs 
than poverty and addiction of parents. I think most of them must be 
weaving carpets in hidden rooms like it has been so customary in Iran's 
culture and way of life. The paper has not placed this reason under 
poverty because even some well-doing traditional families have such 
workshops inside their houses.

Chamran, the physicist guy who ended up participating quite effectively 
in early phases of the imposed Iran-Iraq war, is a good example. He was 
from a middle class family in Tehran, and yet himself and all his 
siblings in the house participated in weaving socks so the family could 
earn some more money on the side as well. Weaving socks used to be very 
popular in Iranian's households.

Similarly, Habibi's household in Tehran (he was an early presidential 
candidate) was that of a middle class family, yet everybody in his 
family also wove socks systematically and delivered them to bazaar and 
sold them. He said this took place in his entire childhood and teen years.

Habibi was a capable man, and is the guy who wrote the first version of 
Iran's constitution after collapse of Pahlavi regime, in case you don't 
remember. He was quite a guy, one of the jewels, but didn't believe in 
talking or writing. So any information about him in fact has come from 
his wife, not himself. His absent autobiography is a pain in the hearts 
of all the Iranians who matter.

Again according to his wife, he had once told her every time he sat down 
to write a biography of himself, he'd hit the point where he had to 
either write lies, or become the subject of assassination by "friends 
_and_ foes."

So he'd soon stop and destroy the pages. A certain very sensitive period 
of time in Iran's history right after the collapse of Shah's regime is 
still in dark because he did not write that autobiography. He just kept 
everything in himself until he died. He never discussed politics with 
his wife either.

Anyway, and there are agricultural chores that kids often end up doing. 
But that's mostly during summer when schools are closed. So I'd consider 
the 26% normal and in fact a part of the way how some Iranian families are.

I am NOT from such a household, by the way. Hehe :) The first job I ever 
had took only two months, and was right before graduating from 
university, and I did that job with utter anger, frustration, 
disillusionment, trauma, feeling betrayed, backstabbed, and forsaken.. ! 
That was my first job in my life :)

I was that spoiled.






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