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Re: IntelliJ just created Mellum, its open source (Was: Prolog missed the Web 2.0 Bandwagon)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Re: IntelliJ just created Mellum, its open source (Was: Prolog missed the Web 2.0 Bandwagon)
Date 2025-06-20 21:41 +0200
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Disclaimer: Didn’t double check whether
there were already some LLM posts on SWI-Prolog
discourse, that would approach a solution.

The LSP and the Relay could access the same
end-user code repository. Not all data would
need a round trip through the client to go

from first request to second request.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Prolog missed the Web 2.0 Bandwagon. Unlike
> web 1.0 which is static content. Web 2.0 is
> all about dynamic content, including building
> content incrementally.
> 
> IntelliJ just created Mellum, its open source,
> their ghost texts are code snippets. So its
> more like recalling typing marcros, giving
> them a good guess. Not completing
> 
> partial identifiers:
> 
> Why Did JetBrains Create Mellum?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TqkvVXKxFA
> 
> LLM optimized for code-related tasks.
> https://huggingface.co/JetBrains/Mellum-4b-base
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Web 2.0 is all about incremental content!
>>
>>  > don’t think it could really do
>>  > the “ghost text” effect.
>>
>> It wouldn’t do the ghost text, only assist
>> it. There was a misunderstanding how “ghost
>> texts” work. Maybe you were thinking, that
>> the “ghost text” is part of the first response.
>>
>> But usually the “ghost text” is a second response:
>>
>>  > waiting for completion candidates to be suggested
>>
>> Well you don’t use it for your primary
>> typing completion which is preferably fast.
>> The first response might give context information,
>> for the second request which provides a
>> different type of completion.
>>
>> But the first response is not responsible
>> for any timing towards the second request.
>> That anyway happens in the client. And it
>> doesn’t hurt if the first response is
>> from a stupid channel.
>>
>> Web 2.0 is all about incremental content!
> 

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